Talk:Quốc xã

Derivation

Each character is Sino-Vietnamese, but does this Vietnamese 2-syllable word derive from a cognate Chinese term, 國社, or is there no equivalent Chinese term? Actually, "socialism" in Vietnamese is xã hội, not just xã. 71.66.97.228 01:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

This is Vietnamese-made Sino-Vietnamese, an abbreviation of "quốc gia xã hội chủ nghĩa" (Nationalsozialismus). 國社 doesn't mean "Nazi" in Chinese. Hbrug 21:35, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

If the full term was not borrowed but components are derived from Chinese, it's still helpful to provide the etymology: quốc (國) + xã (社).

xã hội (社會) means "society", not "socialism". "Socialism" is chủ nghĩa xã hội (主義 + 社會). --Anatoli 21:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it should be made clear in the entry's etymology that this Sino-Vietnamese is just the components and grammar, and was never used in actual Chinese language? 71.66.97.228 22:07, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Sino-Vietnamese doesn't necessarily mean "borrowed from Chinese. Vietnamese uses Sino-Vietnamese components to make new words.--Anatoli 22:16, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but it's important to note in an entry, in order to have a complete entry. And also we don't have a "Sino-Vietnamese" category inclusive of unused-in-Chinese SV terms, we only have one "Vietnamese terms derived from Chinese." 71.66.97.228 22:29, 3 November 2011 (UTC)