Talk:Vize-

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RFM discussion: October–November 2018[edit]

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Shouldn't it be moved to vize- and Category:German words prefixed with vize-?
Arguments for Vize-:

  • it only appears in nouns substantive

Arguments for vize-:

  • it's not prefix capitalisation but substantive capitalisation, i.e. it's prefix vize- even though it's for example substantive Vizeadmiral; similary: Wiktionary:About German#Prefixes

-20:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I tend to agree, but I went along with it here because German native speaker @Zeitlupe created the page, and because it's also capitalised at the German Wiktionary. @-sche, is this a genuine difference in German lexicography? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 21:45, 1 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
I would guess that de.Wikt and the Duden put it at Vize- because it seems like all(?) the words that are formed using it are capitalized (the lowercase words I can think of like vizeköniglich seem better analysed as Vizekönig + -lich), but that seems like an overly superficial analysis to me. (The bare noun Vize also exists, but it seems like recent slang and it seems to be derived from the prefix, since the ultimate etymon Latin vice is not a [nominative] noun.) Indeed, poking around google books:"vize" Präfix, I find that the book books which have it as Vize- also have things like Ur- and Alt- and seem to be concerned only with surface appearance, which is fine for some purposes, but not ours. It seems like (most?) grammars have vize-, e.g. Hilke Elsen's Grundzüge der Morphologie des Deutschen (2011) and Elke Donalies's Die Wortbildung des Deutschen (2002), and this is also where the DWDS puts it, and where I think it should go. - -sche (discuss) 23:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Vize-/vize-[edit]

either move Category:German words prefixed with Vize- to Category:German words prefixed with vize- or vize- back to Vize-.
Note that the translation in vice- and the etymology in some German entries may need to be fixed. --80.133.109.254 10:29, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Done (moved to vize-). - -sche (discuss) 22:22, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Category:German words prefixed with Dendro-[edit]

The same. -20:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Moved to lowercase (and fixed affected entries) per nom. (This one seemed uncontroversial/unremarkable.) - -sche (discuss) 01:18, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Category:German words prefixed with Ornitho-[edit]

The same. -20:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Moved to lowercase (and fixed affected entries) per nom. (This one seemed uncontroversial/unremarkable.) - -sche (discuss) 01:18, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Category:German words prefixed with Rheo-[edit]

-20:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Moved to lowercase (and fixed affected entries) per nom. (This one seemed uncontroversial/unremarkable.) - -sche (discuss) 01:18, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Category:German words prefixed with Myko-[edit]

-20:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Moved to lowercase (and fixed affected entries) per nom. (This one seemed uncontroversial/unremarkable.) - -sche (discuss) 01:18, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Category:German words prefixed with Christo-[edit]

?
Might be a bit more difficult. -20:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

At first I thought this might be trickier because the etymon arguably is capitalized, but the same is true of e.g. riesen- (and, like that word, some derived terms are lowercase, e.g. christomorph). So, I don't see an impediment to moving this. - -sche (discuss) 00:01, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
Moved. - -sche (discuss) 22:23, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Category:German words prefixed with Leucht-[edit]

Not sure about the target. Maybe WT:RFDO as it's a compound with leuchten? -20:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Deleted. De.Wikt agrees that compounds with this element (of which we listed only one in the category) are using the stem of the verb leuchten, not a prefix. - -sche (discuss) 22:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply