Talk:balines
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First discussed at Wiktionary:Requests for cleanup#balines before conversation stalled. Being listed here mostly as a formality with an expectation that the term will fail to be verified. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- I put what I could find on the citations page. Al Jazeera does not italicize the term, but everybody else does. It looks like code switching to me. Kiwima (talk) 01:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 16:51, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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Created by what is probably the IP of a permanently banned user (it might be a good idea to check their other entries, as well), this is a rant thinly disguised as a dictionary entry. I really don't know if there's anything salvageable. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Chuck Entz: I think this should be moved to requests for verification (RFV). I can only find two quotes: "The balines projectiles would only be used in cases of imminent risk of death to a police officer or civilian, the same conditions required for the use of service weapons" [1], which seems to be a quotation translated from Spanish, and is also used in the entry. The second is "It is hard to tell how the real fighting started, whether from the stones launched from the peasants' slingshots or from the police balines (rubber bullets meant only to graze the skin)." [2]. I think the term will likely fail RFV. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 02:04, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I made it a synonym of rubber bullet (which is not pure rubber) but it's really a Spanish word, not English. The use in Peru's Education Reform is in italics to indicate a foreign word. Do we need the courtesy of an RFV for a POV-pushing definition by a permabanned user? Vox Sciurorum (talk) 02:45, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- It's a vast improvement. I went ahead and removed two of the "usexes", which were really bullet points in an accusation: "dozens of gunshot victims were being treated, including a close friend, shot three times in the head and once in the leg". As far as I know, dictionaries don't have "close friends" that they tell stories about. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Vox Sciurorum: It depends on how legalistically we want to handle the entry. Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/English says that it is for entries with listing reasons "other than that the term cannot be attested", meaning it should be sent to RFV. Otherwise, I'll stand aside to let it be straight forwardly deleted. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 04:02, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Since conversation has stalled here, I've gone ahead with the rule-mandated route and listed the term at Wiktionary:Requests for verification/English#balines. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- ...which the English entry hasn't survived — surjection ⟨??⟩ 22:37, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- I made it a synonym of rubber bullet (which is not pure rubber) but it's really a Spanish word, not English. The use in Peru's Education Reform is in italics to indicate a foreign word. Do we need the courtesy of an RFV for a POV-pushing definition by a permabanned user? Vox Sciurorum (talk) 02:45, 7 December 2020 (UTC)