Talk:besser ein schreckliches Ende, als ein Schrecken ohne Ende
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only definition given is a literal translation. It really just means the sum of its components. This is not a proverb. -- 109.91.35.238 19:32, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- The saying is ascribed in this 1924 book to “a leading [Austrian] politician”. It is stated here as an old saying. Some random other occurrences: [1], [2], [3]. --Lambiam 20:46, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sounds like another of those pseudo-proverbs (traue keiner Statistik, die du nicht selbst gefälscht hast, I'm thinking of you). Canonicalization (talk) 21:45, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
- it's probably more a pun/aphorism than a real proverb, but it is in common use. an etymology will make the entry more useful. – Jberkel 23:25, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
The correct wording is "Besser ein Ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne Ende." And yes, this is a proverb. --77.9.43.128 13:59, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that's the usual wording, these days at least. It's absolutely a proverb, just one that is particularly memorable because of the pun involved. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 03:54, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, my wife sitting beside me even knows this variation of the proverb. ;-) Dentonius (my politics | talk) 21:17, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
RFD kept — Dentonius 05:54, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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only two results at Google Books for this variant: Walter Ulbricht (as "Besser ... Ende, wie es Friedrich Schiller ausdrückte"), SPQR - Der Falke von Rom: Teil 6. --20:14, 29 December 2020 (UTC) — This unsigned comment was added by 2003:DE:373F:4037:3C6C:85B5:850A:BEA0 (talk).
- See also Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/Non-English#besser ein schreckliches Ende, als ein Schrecken ohne Ende and lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne Ende, listed as saying (phrase, idiom, or proverb) in the Duden.[4] --Lambiam 13:16, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- RFV-kept. The newspaper quotes provided at RFD look fine to me. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- Not all of the "newspaper quotes provided at RFD" are newspaper quotes and durably archived:
- [5]: It's only an online comment (by "gesprächsbereit") to a newspaper article.
- [6]: "188 LIPA GmbH Die ganze
Es geht um die Machenschaften von Lipa euroconstruct ... T ? können wir wohl abschreiben aber besser ein schreckliches Ende als ein Schrecken ohne Ende
lipa-plan.de". It's misquoted text from [7] (with € instead of ? in: "10 T € können") - [8]:
- Is it durably archived? The publication's name is "Chess.com" and the author "PeterDoggers".
- Is it real German? The site is multilingual (you can change the language) and the author has a Dutch flag behing his name. The spelling is inconsistent (dass vs. Mißgeschick, wußte). The text is originally Slavic, from "Yan Nepomniachtchi @lechesisq" at twitter: "Как говорится, лучше ужасный конец, чем ужас без конца #EnoughIsEnough", and then translated.
- --46.91.106.74 22:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)