Talk:cryptex

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Plural[edit]

Would the plural of this include cryptices, since it is a portmanteau of the Latin word codex (which has the plural codices)? --BiT 00:02, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

With 115 Googles, half of them discussing whether that might be a plural? ;-) I think not ... Robert Ullmann 00:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
No I'm not talking about whether it's popular, just grammatically logical. Like the word penis, people might not use the plural penes a lot (why the hell would you want to refer to many penes in the first place?), but it's still correct. Ok, to rephrase my question does a compound word decline according to the latter word? E.g. girl + matrix = girltrix. Would the plurals be girltrixes and girltrices? Some help? --BiT 10:27, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Since this is meant to be a descriptive dictionary, we'd just have to study actual usage. But yes, a word will usually decline according to its familiar ending. Equinox 23:00, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

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Only in one fictional universe (Da Vinci Code). Equinox 23:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

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cryptex

For some reason, I was thinking about this last night. It's used in the Da Vinci Code, which by any imaginable standards is a well known work in English. Is the Da Vinci Code set in a fictional universe? I don't think so. I think this is just a nonce word used in a well-known work, ergo it meets CFI. Thoughts? NB see Talk:cryptex Mglovesfun (talk) 10:38, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I would say that a fictional universe doesn't have to involve anything really "out there" like time travel or elves. Dan Brown's book is fiction, so its universe (with all of its invented characters, events, and places) is a fictional one. Equinox 09:40, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Didn't you create that Moby-Dick nonce word a few months ago? How is this different? Mglovesfun (talk) 09:54, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
It's different because a "cryptex" is a specific invented thing or device that exists only in that universe. The word from Moby Dick was just a newly-coined poetic adjective, something along the lines of stormtossed; can you remember what it was? Also, Dan Brown sucks :) Equinox 10:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I think it was a noun, somethingwood. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:18, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Right, I was thinking of lashwise (Melville, but not Moby Dick), but you mean warwood; I don't think warwood is a new, sci-fi type of wood that Melville invented, but an unusual (nonce) name for some actual kind of wood that really exists. I couldn't find out what it was, unfortunately. I'd say cryptex is more comparable to Tardis. Equinox 10:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Ha! If we don't know what it means, we don't know if it's fictional universe only or not. I mean Melville's characters were fictional too. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, since the novel is supposed to be about real whaling in real ships made of real wood, I feel pretty sure about this. (Perhaps it's any wood wrested from the natives in wartime?) I suggest a separate RFV/RFD if you want to pursue that! Equinox 15:49, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Some editions of Moby Dick, including the earliest ones that b.g.c. lets me preview, hyphenate it as war-wood (which we don't have an entry for). But as the latter elsewhere seems to mean "shield", or at least some sort of thing that's made of wood and used for war (rather than some specific sort of wood, perhaps related somehow to war) — see [1][2][3][4] — that doesn't seem to be terribly helpful. The book at one point uses the phrase "certain little canoes of dark wood, like the rich war-wood of his native isle", which really seems to indicate that Melville means a kind of wood. —RuakhTALK 22:27, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Another issue to the one Equinox mentions is that IMO Brown is not "a well-known work" as that phase is used in the CFI. It's not exactly Shakespeare or even Lewis Carroll. Wait fifty years or something and see how popular it is.​—msh210 (talk) 15:44, 18 October 2010 (UTC)