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Rfd-sense: two senses added by a non-native speaker:
- (reflexive) sich vom etw. entfernen, to go absent
- (reflexive) sich aus etw. entfernen, to leave something
I don't see how these are any different from sense 2. -- Liliana • 12:50, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- The "leave something" sense is transparent (given German's relatively strict rules about prepositions, you can expect any verb meaning leave to be coupled to "aus"/"raus"), so delete sense 4 (although it would be nice to have a usage example that shows the use of "aus"). The "go absent" sense is less clear to me, as a non-native German speaker. Does it only refer to cases of running away, or is it equivalent to the broader English "go absent"? If, for example, I don't report for duty (that is, I don't show up at all), have I still entfernt myself from the troop? Smurrayinchester (talk) 14:37, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- The example sentence is pretty horrible because absent without leave is idiomatic in English. Really, all it means is that you leave the troop. That's it. If you don't report for duty, you never left to begin with, in that case, you'd use sich entziehen. -- Liliana • 00:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- In that case Delete both. Smurrayinchester (talk) 06:56, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- The example sentence is pretty horrible because absent without leave is idiomatic in English. Really, all it means is that you leave the troop. That's it. If you don't report for duty, you never left to begin with, in that case, you'd use sich entziehen. -- Liliana • 00:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
This appears to be resolved, as the entry has been substantially rewritten with senses combined or clarified. bd2412 T 02:48, 4 June 2015 (UTC)