Talk:groupos

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Dunno where to start really. I can see one attestation here for Groupos. The link in the entry, apart from not being durably archived, makes Groupos look like a company name. Again in the link I found, it looks like a company or a product name. There are lots of scannos for groups and grupos (Spanish) but possibly nothing that backs this up. Also is there a singular groupo/Groupo? Mglovesfun (talk) 16:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Might be a trademark originally — I can't tell — but seems promising. The linked site does show a singular ("Has anyone ever ordered a Sram and Shimano road groupo from one of the companies off of Alibaba?"); then a brief scan through Google Books found "These new groupos advance Campy's battle for market ...[dominance etc.? word inaccessible] (1986), "Most roadies go for Shimano or Campagnolo groupos." (2006), and — this one strongly suggesting a trademark — "Sets of components (called Groupos) are made by one manufacturer and as such are all one quality." Equinox 16:46, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
LOL - groupos is a generic term for any set of bicycle parts. It is not a trademarked or licensed term, all cyclists and manufacturers use the term. Why don't you ask on a cycling forum? Good luck 198.103.184.76 14:16, 6 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Why? Because it wouldn't help, that's why. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:22, 6 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Groupo: All the drivetrain components (usually from the same company like Campagnolo or Shimano) needed to turn a bare frame into a complete bicycle (e.g., crank, chain, derailleurs, brakes, etc). Also called group. WritersCramp (talk) 11:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
That may persuade people that it's credible, but it will still fail without references to durably-archived sources, which include books (we usually find those through Google Books), most physically-published newspapers and magazines, and Usenet (we usually find those through Google Groups). See WT:CFI for the complete requirements. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
RFV-failed; deleted because no citations of use in durably archived media (=books, printed magazines, Usenet) were provided. - -sche (discuss) 10:00, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply