Talk:lemon platt

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lemon platt

Has this ever been used by anyone other than Joyce? If not, it belongs in an appendix for nonce words. Equinox ◑ 15:40, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Try as I might, I can't even find evidence that platt has ever been used by anyone other than Joyce to refer to food, let alone that lemon platt has. I did find some citations of Platt (“Low German”), some citations of "Platt's Chlorides" (a brand of disinfectant), and citations of platt as an obsolete spelling of plat = plot. - -sche (discuss) 17:53, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

The OED has plat (single t) meaning a dish of food (used by Byron in 1824 (Don Juan: Canto XV lxxiii. 41 ) " The simple olives,..Must I pass over..? I must, although a favourite ‘plat’ of mine." (and four other cites up to 1991) but it's just a borrowing from French. Dbfirs 20:26, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, it's hard to imagine that Joyce's "lemon platt" (apparently some kind of sweetshop candy) would use the word for a "plate" or prepared dish. Equinox ◑ 20:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. It's more likely to be a plaited confection. It should be lemon plait which we can cite, with Joyce's spelling just being a variant. I suggest that we replace the entry with "Alternative spelling of lemon plait" where I've copied Joyce's cite. Dbfirs 20:54, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, if there's only one citation of lemon platt, it doesn't even meet CFI as an alternative spelling, so it would need to use something like {{no entry|because=unattested|the entry '''[[lemon plait]]'''|lang=en}} (producing this). - -sche (discuss) 07:10, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 03:08, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it does seem to be a Joyce-only spelling. Thank you for your elegant compromise. I've copied the Joyce citation just in case anyone finds others, but I don't think they will. Dbfirs 17:55, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Archiver note: previously, this met WT:ATTEST and thus would not have failed RFV; things changed in Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2014-03/CFI: Removing usage in a well-known work 3. --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:06, 21 March 2015 (UTC)