Talk:oral mucositis
Latest comment: 5 years ago by BD2412 in topic RFD discussion: October 2018–May 2019
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Deleted by me as SoP; restored by Wyang as a "valid clinical" something. So is "major depression" but it's clearly SoP unless we get into the nasty legal whatnots of "what, today, in the DSM, is defined as depression", or "what percentage of cream is legally allowed in milk". Equinox ◑ 06:52, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- It's a distinct clinical entity by itself, with an ICD-10 code (K12.3). The characteristics, aetiology, diagnosis and evaluation, and treatment are all entirely different for oral mucositis compared with mucositis elsewhere. major depression is not sum of parts; when a patient is diagnosed with “major depression” it isn't just depression that is major ― specific criteria need to be used before such diagnosis can be made. Wyang (talk) 06:58, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- If we accept ICD categories as a reason to keep (never mind the fact that doctors change their minds and their systems all the time), then we must have entries for e.g. ICD-10-CM K12 stomatitis and related lesions, and noninflammatory disorder of vagina, unspecified. If that's not okay, then you need a better "keep" argument. The fact that treatment is different is totally irrelevant because we aren't a medical textbook, we are a dictionary. Equinox ◑ 06:59, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- Individual clinical disease entities (not ICD codes) warrant individual entries ― this is the default in medical dictionaries. Patients would say they suffer from oral mucositis, but no one would say they suffer from “stomatitis and related lesions”, or “noninflammatory disorder of vagina, unspecified”. Those are umbrella terms used in ICD classification, and are not disease entities. Similar examples: pyloric stenosis is stenosis of the pylorus, but it's a clinical entity and thus needs to be kept. So are ischaemic colitis, pulmonary embolism, deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary fibrosis, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, premature ejaculation, granulomatosis with polyangiitis, benign prostatic hyperplasia, familial hypercholesterolaemia, membranoproliferative glomerulonephritis, etc. Wyang (talk) 07:09, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- How does this compare to something like oral thrush? Ƿidsiþ 13:19, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Wyang. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 01:17, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- Abstain: I tend to think Wyang is making a strong argument, and e.g. major depression is not a depression that is major. Still, oral mucositis really seems to be mucositis that is oral, and while having ICD-10 code could be suggestive, it is not conclusive for keeping as Equinox points out. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:37, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 00:34, 13 May 2019 (UTC)