Talk:step in front of a moving train
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"(idiomatic) to sacrifice one's own life for a noble and loyal cause". Not evident from Google Books, where most matches (except for one rather opaque metaphor) seem to refer to literal suicide by train. Equinox ◑ 18:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
- Note diff. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
- Despite Ullman's removal of the RFV, he gave no explanation for the removal, there are no citations, and this is a sense that I'm certainly not familiar with. Perhaps there's some back story that I'm unaware of? -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 15:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
- IMO, It might mean "to commit suicide" or "to meaninglessly waste effort fighting the inevitable", but not the sense given. But it just seems like a live metaphor, not moribund enough to be an idiom. DCDuring TALK 18:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
- Despite Ullman's removal of the RFV, he gave no explanation for the removal, there are no citations, and this is a sense that I'm certainly not familiar with. Perhaps there's some back story that I'm unaware of? -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 15:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
- I thought it had a figurative sense (and would have thought that it had had that sense for a couple decades, at least), probably the one DCDuring describes... but so far, I find the same thing as Equinox on Google Books: literal uses only. - -sche (discuss) 18:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. I have added the requested citations but I'm still not satisfied: they do not seem to match the sense given. It might be a mere metaphor but, judging by gbooks results, not an uncommon one if you add "to jump in front of a moving train" and "to stand in front of a moving train". So, I guess this expression may have its place here. Apart from this, all of those quotes are from 2009 and two of them seem to belong to the financial jargon. — Xavier, 22:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- I thought it had a figurative sense (and would have thought that it had had that sense for a couple decades, at least), probably the one DCDuring describes... but so far, I find the same thing as Equinox on Google Books: literal uses only. - -sche (discuss) 18:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
rfv-failed per all. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:30, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- @Xavier: They are from a financial context. Context is not jargon. BTW, your cites are on Citations:step in front of a moving train. DCDuring TALK 12:01, 15 August 2012 (UTC)