Talk:two-wheeled
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NISOP. Equinox ◑ 23:22, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete as pointless; one–sixteen-wheeled (as well as many greater even numbers) are all easily attestable viâ Google Book Search. † ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 12:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Keep. It's a word. Would you propose to delete understandable? It's easily understandable too: understand + -able. Never forget that the definition is not the only part in the pages (you seem to forget examples, translations, anagrams, etc.) Lmaltier 12:38, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete, what we really need is to look again at wheeled and check that it is perfectly clear. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:48, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think that two-wheeled = two + wheeled. It's more two wheels + -ed. But, anyway, it's a word (with, possibly, anagrams, translations, etc.). Lmaltier 16:11, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete, what we really need is to look again at wheeled and check that it is perfectly clear. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:48, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
asianlearnersNEEDsuch entrys+tr-hanger.NI=?--史凡>voice-MSN/skypeme!RSI>typin=hard! 02:44, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it means "having two wheels". There is no reason to have five-or-more-wheeled, but the common terms two-wheeled, three-wheeled and four-wheeled should be kept. —Stephen 20:51, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- but this word is considered as comparable in the page, which seems absurd to me. Lmaltier 20:59, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, two-wheeled is an absolute. It cannot be more two-wheeled. —Stephen 06:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
one-wheeled — 744 BGC hits;
two-wheeled — 3,300 BGC hits;
three-wheeled — 1,551 BGC hits;
four-wheeled — 3,140 BGC hits;
five-wheeled — 553 BGC hits;
six-wheeled — 1,089 BGC hits;
seven-wheeled — 419 BGC hits;
eight-wheeled — 926 BGC hits;
nine-wheeled — 68 BGC hits;
ten-wheeled — 687 BGC hits;
eleven-wheeled — 21 BGC hits;
twelve-wheeled — 624 BGC hits;
thirteen-wheeled — 10 BGC hits;
fourteen-wheeled — 146 BGC hits;
fifteen-wheeled — 26 BGC hits;
sixteen-wheeled — 162 BGC hits;
eighteen-wheeled — 198 BGC hits;
twenty-wheeled — 52 BGC hits;
twenty-one-wheeled — 2 BGC hits;
twenty-two-wheeled — 13 BGC hits;
twenty-three-wheeled — 4 BGC hits (though only one seems to be in the right sense);
twenty-four-wheeled — 125 BGC hits;
twenty-five-wheeled — 105 BGC hits (e.g., [1]);
twenty-six-wheeled — 8 BGC hits (e.g., [2]);
…and so on. All semantically transparent, all unidiomatic. I see no qualitative difference between (deprecated template usage) two-, (deprecated template usage) three-, or (deprecated template usage) four-wheeled and the other (deprecated template usage) n-wheeled. Delete them all or keep them all. † ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 11:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- I've added the missing sense "(in combination) Having the specified number or type of wheels" to [[wheeled]], and say to delete this SOP.—msh210℠ 20:55, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- I looked up one of your so-called transparent unidiomatic attestable examples, fifteen-wheeled — 26 BGC hits;
, and the ones I saw where about "fifteen ‘wheeled vehicles’" (fifteen vehicles with wheels). We only need one through four, and no need at all for five or more. —Stephen 03:09, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- I looked up one of your so-called transparent unidiomatic attestable examples, fifteen-wheeled — 26 BGC hits;
- [3], [4]. † ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 16:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
If we're going after these, the equivalently formed nouns two-wheeler, three-wheeler, four-wheeler, ..., eighteen-wheeler, ... would seem to be as deletable/keepable as these adjectives. That said, because of its common use to designate the standard tractor-trailer combo rather than any generic vehicle with eighteen wheels, entries for eighteen-wheeler and eighteen-wheeled are in my opinion warranted, but since the other combos aren't normally evocative of one particular combination, delete them. — Carolina wren discussió 16:08, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- These entries may be a rich source of RfV candidates. But I don't see how we can delete any one of them that has a sense other than "having N wheels".
- The "-wheeler" entries are more likely to have more meaningful definitions. I'd vouch for two-wheeler, three-wheeler, and four-wheeler and also bet on some truck "-wheelers": ten-wheeler, fourteen-wheeler. DCDuring TALK 16:41, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree on the "-wheeler" entries, but isn't "two-wheeled" just two words joined by a hyphen to make a two-word adjective? How does it differ from "red-coloured" (for example)? Dbfirs 23:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- I would be willing to argue that two-wheeled is a special case, since the wheels may be side-by-side and joined by an axle or one in front of the other with no axle. A "two-heeled vehicle" may be a chariot or a Vespa. Both are two-wheeled, but what that means is very different between the two vehicles. --EncycloPetey 02:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree on the "-wheeler" entries, but isn't "two-wheeled" just two words joined by a hyphen to make a two-word adjective? How does it differ from "red-coloured" (for example)? Dbfirs 23:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Keep everything up to four for absolutely no reason other than we keep low numbers like three hundred and three-dimensional. DAVilla 05:32, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Per Lmaltier, if you consider hyphenates as one word (or per CFI not an "expression") then it should be kept as words don't have to be idiomatic. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:12, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Are we not raising a two-headed monster here? Dbfirs 22:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Per Lmaltier, if you consider hyphenates as one word (or per CFI not an "expression") then it should be kept as words don't have to be idiomatic. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:12, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Kept per, at best, no consensus. --Rising Sun talk? 23:26, 1 March 2010 (UTC)