Talk:with gay abandon

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RFM discussion: March–April 2024

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We have with gay abandon, but you can also say Citations:with wild abandon in (AFAIK) the same sense, and simply Citations:with abandon, not to mention google books:"with limitless abandon", google books:"with unlimited abandon". I was going to propose to make with abandon the lemma and point the versions with adjectives to it, but I notice that the use of abandon#Noun without with is plenty well attested (and not recent, so I doubt forms with with are JIFFYed in or anything); I added an 1846 cite to abandon and more here... so maybe we should just merge/redirect with gay abandon and with abandon to abandon#Noun? - -sche (discuss) 04:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

PS there's been some back and forth in the edit history over whether it's dated or not... - -sche (discuss) 04:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Google NGrams shows continued use of with gay abandon.
Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary ("CALD") and UD are the sole OneLook references that have it. CALD has it as a run-in at abandon, OneLook showing the link thereto as "with (gay/wild) abandon". Redirects to abandon#Noun and some "collocations" might be good enough for our users. (It would be nice if linking to a sense opened up syns, ants, hypers, hypos, and cols for the linked-to sense.) DCDuring (talk) 14:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Other prepositions, like of and in precede wild/gay abandon, but, I believe, less frequently abandon alone (after filtering out "[punctuation] abandon", "Abandon, Maine", "abandon ship", and other collocations).
Abandon (noun) seems to be enjoying a comeback in gay and feminist literature and continues to be used in religious writings. DCDuring (talk) 14:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Merged to abandon. - -sche (discuss) 06:01, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply