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Conjugation and declension tables are typically filled by bots, not with ACCEL. Is the format for Yiddish noun plurals different than for proper noun plurals?

Yair rand (talk)04:52, 19 November 2012

Re conj/decl: Yeah, I keep getting told that, but nobody wants to run a bot to do it. Sadly enough, it'd be easier for me to create the forms semi-manually as needed than learn Python. So ACCEL still seems like the best option.

Re noun plurals: מענטשן is a good example of the ideal format.

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds04:59, 19 November 2012

The script doesn't have anything for the original entry's transliteration, and {{plural of}} doesn't actually even support the tr= parameter. Would it be a problem if I left that bit out?

Yair rand (talk)05:18, 19 November 2012

If I understand you correctly that (in this example) מענטשן gets transliterated but מענטש does not, then I'm fine with it.

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds05:23, 19 November 2012

Okay, done for noun plurals.

Yair rand (talk)05:27, 19 November 2012

We have apparently had a misunderstanding... here is the difference between what it does and what it should do.

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds05:38, 19 November 2012

You need to clear your cache, that's the old version.

Yair rand (talk)05:47, 19 November 2012

Did so, then switched devices and forgot to do it again. Sorry about that. Anyway, it's perfect.

Example for the adjectives, if you're up for it: בעסערע. Thanks so much.

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds05:52, 19 November 2012

By the way, many Yiddish plurals are formed regularly by adding -n or -s to the end. I wanted to add n and s as possible values for the argument pl= (to get the same effect as if I typed pl=ס{{subst:PAGENAME}}|pltr={{subst:PAGENAME}}s for pl=s). I'm not sure how to deal with the spans in {{yi-noun}} for that, however. Can you do it or explain it? Thanks.

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds18:09, 21 November 2012

The spans are just HTML, they don't interact with the wikitext or anything. The span's class's transliteration- bit needs to get the right transliteration for the script, but it doesn't really work any differently than getting things to output regular text. Replacing {{{pl}}} with {{#switch:{{{pl}}}|s={{PAGENAME}}ס|n={{PAGENAME}}|{{{pl}}}ן}} (pardon the rtl mess), {{{pltr}}} with {{#switch:{{{pl}}}|s={{{tr}}}s|n={{{tr}}}n|{{{pltr}}}}}, and so on will work fine.

Yair rand (talk)18:37, 21 November 2012

Excellent. Thank you (although the exact code you provided above doesn't actually work... but I temporarily overcame my ineptitude).

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds19:27, 21 November 2012

For some reason, this edit to {{yi-adj-1}} didn't accelerate the topmost link in the leftmost column of the inflection table on a page like זאַפֿטיק. Am I doing something wrong? If so, could you tell me my mistake? If not, what more needs to be done to get this to work?

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds04:00, 12 December 2012

"inflected-form" isn't a valid form value. The only valid ones are plural, diminutive, genitive, diminutive-plural, genitive-and-plural, plural-definite, plural-indefinite, singular-definite, vocative, singular-vocative, plural-vocative, third-person-singular, present-participle, simple-past, past-participle, simple-past-and-participle, present, past, infinitive, imperative, positive, comparative, superlative, and exaggerated (pretty sure that's all).

Yair rand (talk)04:14, 12 December 2012

How unfortunate. Can you add inflected-form as an option? (If you don't, I'll try, but we all know that there's a fair chance you'll have to revert me if I do it.)

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds04:21, 12 December 2012