User talk:Benwing2/bg-freq-fiction

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(Notifying Atitarev, Bogorm, Bezimenen, Nauka, Ted Masters, Kiril kovachev): This is a list of nonexistent Bulgarian words by frequency. There are a lot of high-frequency words that don't exist currently. It comes from [1]. This resource has separate lists for fiction, science, mass media, etc. as well as a "general" list. The "general" list appears unsatisfactory to me as it has too many technical terms listed as high-frequency, so I am instead going with the fiction list here. I took the top 10,000 terms in this list and only included on this page the ones that don't exist as Bulgarian lemmas. The list isn't perfect as it includes some words that aren't really lemmas and doesn't always have the capitalization correct, but it's very close, and is a good resource if you're looking for words to create. Benwing2 (talk) 04:32, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Benwing2: I'm not sure that 3p. sg. forms like трябва (trjabva, “it must”), би (bi), бил (bil), има (ima, “there is”), вижда (vižda, “it sees”) (reflexively вижда се (vižda se) also means it appears as, it looks like), изглежда (izgležda, “it seems”), etc. have a non-lemma meaning. The dictionary form that BAS has chosen for verbs is the present 1p. sg. form. Exceptions are only fossilized expressions such as the future tense particle ще (šte) (historically 3p. sg. of ща (šta, “to want, to will”) < *xъtěti), може (može, “maybe, it is possible”), бива (biva, “it is OK, it is fine”) and various others which have been grammaticalized into particles or adverbs. Did you add these forms for record-keeping or you want to add some lemma meaning to them? Безименен (talk) 13:12, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Bezimenen, Benwing2: The list may have some imperfections, as stated by @Benwing2 but it's a good list. If some forms are non-lemmas, they can be ignored or deleted from the list.
@Bezimenen, thank you for the comments. I have just created the lemma тря́бвам (trjábvam). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 10:14, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The entry тря́бвам (trjábvam) may require some attention. It seems it's only used impersonally, so not sure if imperative forms are valid, etc. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 10:16, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Atitarev: The verb is not always used impersonally (unlike вали – it rains), e. g. Трябва му лъжица за супата – He needs a spoon for the soup, but in the meaning ought it is. Would you justify a separate lemma for this meaning (e. g. Трябва да проверя в речника значението на тази дума. I ought to consult in the dictionary the meaning of this word, or, in order to præserve the verb usage: It behoves me to consult in the dictionary the meaning of this word)? Bogorm converſation 21:06, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Bogorm: Thank you. I have added your example sentence to the entry. :) --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 00:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Benwing2: So, when an entry is created, should it be deleted from the list? As in, is it okay to tamper with the list once a term has been defined? Thanks
Kiril kovachev (talk) 11:21, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Kiril kovachev Sure, feel free to delete. Periodically I regenerate the list in any case, which removes all the entries that have been created. Benwing2 (talk) 02:19, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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