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Again, welcome! Wyang (talk) 23:09, 30 November 2017 (UTC)


Chadic etymologies[edit]

Cool that you are adding Chadic etymologies. Just wanted to say that :) Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 19:44, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! And I think your contributions are much cooler and more honorable.  — J​as​p​e​t 00:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Proto entries[edit]

Please don't create proto entries without attested descendants, even if they are cited. --{{victar|talk}} 18:16, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure I comprehend. Could you elaborate on what you're referring to?
Edit: You're talking about Reconstruction:Proto-Afro-Asiatic/-t, right? Is the issue that the descendants listed on the page are only protoforms, or that they are mostly redlinks? Forgive me if I'm utterly missing some obvious point.  — J​as​p​e​t 08:23, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
No, I'm referring to your Proto-Chadic entries, like this one. --{{victar|talk}} 17:08, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Ah well that's confusing, considering I didn't create it.  — J​as​p​e​t 19:16, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
My humble apologies on that. --{{victar|talk}} 19:42, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Also, if you're going to start adding Proto-Afro-Asiatic reconstructions to etymologies, be prepared to cite the heck out of those. --{{victar|talk}} 18:22, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

In addition, please note that we have a zero-tolerance policy on Proto-Nostratic, and any entries or etymologies created will be subject to deletion. --{{victar|talk}} 17:08, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware that the “we” you're referring to adheres to a central tenet which states “Nostratic is bogus, and anything resembling Nostratic is probably also bogus.” (Though it is puzzling that you don't have the same policy for Proto–“North Caucasian” or Proto-Niger-Congo, which are far less well established.) Though Wiktionary's consensus(?) on them isn't quite so “zero-tolerance” as you suggest, there are of course very high standards for the inclusion of Nostratic and similar contestable macrofamilies, as there should be. In any case I don't plan to create any such entries or add Nostratic etymologies. And your warning does not apply to the userspace, so there is no issue here to discuss. My userspace appendices are not even endorsements of the theories in question.  — J​as​p​e​t 19:16, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Glad to hear. Thanks. --{{victar|talk}} 19:42, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Also, LOL to citing UtherPendrogn as a reference for anything. You're in good company there. --{{victar|talk}} 21:50, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
LOL to thinking that I was “citing” the question and not the responses, especially that by Tropylium.  — J​as​p​e​t 01:07, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
By providing links to the discussions, you're citing both, buddy, the good with the bad. I also see no support for Nostratic entries, but if you want to create a vote on it, by all means, go for it. --{{victar|talk}} 01:19, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
There seem to be several points of confusion here.
  • The questions themselves in the thread to which you are referring are not a source of information on any consensus, especially when you isolate and focus exclusively on them in the way you are doing.
  • You are right; there is no overall support for adding Nostratic entries. This is a fact which I have not contested.
  • I am not suggesting any such thing as a motion to start adding Proto-Nostratic etymologies, entries, or even an appendix of Proto-Nostratic reconstructions separate from the Reconstruction namespace (although the latter has been suggested, on numerous occasions). I am simply countering your statement from earlier. Perhaps you meant something different from what you said.  — J​as​p​e​t 01:28, 15 December 2018 (UTC)