User talk:Moxeve

Hello! Please see this change for how we format etymologies. I've given you the standard welcome message below.

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Etymologies

You seem not to have noticed my link at the top. Please take a look, and learn how to format etymologies correctly. --Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 22:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

The header 'Etymology' needs top be capitalized. --Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 23:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Languages and the etymology templates

When you refer to a language in an etymology, it's good to follow the general practice at Wiktionary for which version of the name to use (not required, but nice, for consistency's sake). When I mention a language for the first time, I look it up in WT:LANGLIST to see the preferred name. If I'm not familiar with the language, I may look it up in Wikipedia first. In both cases, you'll normally find a language code, usually the one specified by w:ISO 639-3. This is useful for putting in templates.

{{etyl}} is used to add the correct language derivation categories to the entry. The first parameter, separated from "etyl" by the "|" character, is the language code of the language the word comes from. The second code is only used if the language of the entry isn't English, or if you want to keep it from adding the category: it's the language code for the language the etymology ends up with. The etyl template also writes out the standard name language that goes with the language code. Some people like to use the etyl template just for this purpose: one would just enter {{etyl|ka|-}}, with the second language code replaced with "-" so it won't add a language derivation category (the example I just gave looks like this when you save the page: Georgian ).

{{term}} is another useful template for etymologies. It has many parameters, but here are a few: the first parameter after the template name is the word itself, in the form that's used for the name of the wiktionary page. This will be used for the link to the entry. If the version you want to show on the page is slightly different from the one you can link to (for instance, you may want to show a different form of the verb than the one that has the main entry), you would add a second parameter with the other version. This can also be referred to anywhere in the template after the template name with "head=" followed by what you would have put in the second place in the template. After that is the transliteration template, which can be referred to with "tr=". I always add the "lang=" template (I don't remember where it goes in the order of the parameters), with the language code for the term. This makes sure that the link that's created by the template goes to the correct language section. Let's say you want to link to a Mingrelian word that's spelled the same as a Georgian one. Without the code, it goes to the top of that page. Since the language sections (except for English) are in alphabetical order, you would have to scroll down past the Georgian entry to find the Mingrelian one. With the correct language code (xmf is Mingrelian), you go straight to the Mingrelian entry.

If you want to find out about a template, you can type into the search box "template:" followed by the name of the template (for instance you would find the {{term}} by typing "template:term" into the search box).

I hope I haven't overwhelmed you with too much information at once, but you're entering information right now that could use these templates, and it would take a while for you to get the information by just reading the pages linked to above. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:19, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I just noticed that there is no language code for Zan, which is apparently the language that gave rise to both the modern Mingrelian and Laz languages, or the branch of the Kartvelian languages that includes them. I'm, not sure what the Wiktionary equivalent would be for a given word. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:00, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

IPA&Transliteration

გაუმარჯოს მადლობა რომ გვეხმარები ქართულ სიტყვებზე, მაგრამ გთხოვ ტრანსლიტერაციის დროს გამოიყენე Wiktionary:Georgian transliteration, ხოლო IPA-სთვის ეს. შეიძლება ღ-სთვის ɣ ჯობდეს მაგრამ რადგან ყველგან ამოტრიალებული R მაქვს გამოყენებული ასე გააკეთე ხოლმე რადგან ერთის შეცვლა უფრო დამაბნეველი იქნება მკითხველისთვის.

ხო კიდევ საიდან გაქვს ეგ საერთო ქართველურის ტერმინები მოტანილი? აშკარად არც კლიმოვია და არცფენრიხი--Dixtosa. 14:13, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

კარგი, მაგრამ ღ სთვის ეგ უფრო მიღებულია ქართულში, ხოლო ამობრუნებული რ კავკასიური ენებისთვის. საერთო ქართველური სიტყვები ზოგი კლიმოვიდან არის, ზოგი ფენრიხ-სარჯველაძედან