User talk:Waltzingmogumogupeach

Welcome

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! Thadh (talk) 11:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Some tips and tricks

Hey, I thought I'd stop by to give you some quick pointers.

First of all, it would help a lot if you give references to the entries you create. There are two ways to do that: the easiest is just adding the reference at the bottom of the page, under the header ===References===. Another way, which is more preferable for complex entries, is to add these in-line with the text using the tags <ref></ref>. Especially if you have a source on etymology or pronunciation these can be helpful. An easy way if using one source consistently is to create a Reference template (compare such examples as {{R:DSL}}, {{R:crk:Wolfart:1973}}) Feel free to ping me if you need help with that!

Second, templates always have a page, where the code can be reviewed, and for the more complex or used templates, a documentation exists. For example, the template {{etyl}} (see the documentation) is no longer in use, as explained on the page. The template still exists for the sole reason of not creating a vast amount of errors on pages where this template isn't yet replaced by either {{inh}}, {{bor}} or {{der}}.

Lastly, the custom on Wiktionary is that small entries usually don't have detailed etymologies. Since Wiktionary is a dictionary, its main focus is to provide meanings and usages, backed up by attestations, not the etymologies. This doesn't mean you should stop adding these - the contrary, an etymology may be most useful for the entry - but considerations of different scholars on via which language and using what morphological process the word developed is better left for languages like Arabic or English.

As said above, I hope you enjoy being a Wiktionarian. Happy editing! Thadh (talk) 11:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Editing in languages you don't know

You've been creating a spate of entries in a wide variety of languages. Many of the entries are okay apart from formatting problems (and potentially copyright violation with Glosbe usage examples), but some of them have linguistic problems; you don't know to use an ʻokina for Hawaiian, or how to assign part of speech correctly in it; you don't know how Coptic grammar works and that what you thought was a determiner agreeing with the gender of the addressee is actually a prefix agreeing with the gender of the head noun. It's possible to create entries in languages you don't know, but it involves being very careful and working slowly, usually on one language at a time working straight from a grammar and dictionary of that language. If you want to learn how to create good entries, we're here to help, but if you continue leaving a mess as you have been, you will be blocked. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 16:01, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

But how did you know it was wrong? I don't see coptic on the languages you do not know either. If anything i looked it up from a dictionary or any related video that i could find. Plus the thing with the okina comes from the hawaiian dictionary, and it can surely be allowed as variations occur in different dictionaries, which were often the case.

First off, to avoid such scenarios, you should give references to the entries you create. Secondly, Metaknowledge knows a great deal about Coptic. And lastly - not every dictionary, and especially a video, is an authorative source. Thadh (talk) 18:19, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for answering my questions.Very helpful.

Sumerian entries

Hi! I've seen you've added some new Sumerian entries! That's really great, keep them coming!

In case you might be interested, I thought I'd share with you a page I've just created with some main points to know and keep in mind when editing Sumerian entries: WT:About_Sumerian.

Looking forward to more Sumerian entries! Sartma (talk) 23:38, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Area 51 &52 classified

How does the bystander effect take a role in someone threatened to be killed in exchange for relieved information that is leaked 2600:8804:8887:2A00:9479:6751:8435:E9CC 02:07, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Uh.....what? Waltzingmogumogupeach (talk) 02:21, 24 November 2021 (UTC)