Talk:accident

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Rfv-sense: (obsolete) Unusual appearance or effect, used in Chaucer, per Webster 1913. Was this used in this sense in Modern English? DCDuring TALK 11:33, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps Modern English renderings of Chaucer? Mglovesfun (talk) 12:15, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps the Philosophy sense is related? Pingku 15:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
FWIW, I don't find this sense in Shakespeare using my Shakespeare Lexicon. I'm also not finding it in Milton's works. --EncycloPetey 22:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
The OED has "A casual appearance or effect, a phenomenon" citing Chaucer's Clerk's Tale "Non accident for noon adversité Was seyn in hir", and has three subsequent cites up to 1765, but marks this sense as obsolete. Dbfirs 16:34, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Many thanks. I'd take their word for it, but we could use the citations. It is difficult to find citations for a specific uncommon sense of a common term using Google alone. DCDuring TALK 16:49, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
I have added another quotation to the entry. It is not clear to me, that "unusual appearance or effect" is a correct definition. - -sche 20:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Opaque and obscure, but cited. Maybe even correctly defined. I'm not sure what relationship this sense has to the sense "{{philosophy}} A quality or attribute in distinction from the substance". - -sche (discuss) 04:22, 28 April 2011 (UTC)