Talk:cabáiste

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cabáiste#Etymology

While searching for Kumst, I found words like Russian капуста (kapústa), Latvian kāposti, Georgian კომბოსტო (ḳombosṭo), Hungarian káposzta, Tatar кәбестә (käbestä), the etymology at kapusta (from Proto-Slavic *kǫpus(ta)) looks better to me. --80.114.178.7 23:04, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

The change of English/Anglo-Norman /dʒ/ to /ʃtʲ/ in perfectly regular in Irish; there are dozens of words where it happened. And considering the languages Irish has been in contact with, a borrowing from English/Anglo-Norman is way more likely than a borrowing from Slavic. —Angr 23:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
I am not assuming Irish borrowed from Slavic, I'm assuming Irish and English/Anglo-Norman borrowed the same Wanderwort from Latin. --80.114.178.7 23:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Irish borrowings from Latin directly tended to be much earlier: Old and Middle Irish. Cabáiste doesn't seem to show up that early, but instead much later when borrowing from Anglo-Norman or English directly is much more plausible. It also fits phonetically with such an etymology. DIL ("cabáiste" in Dictionary of the Irish Language, Royal Irish Academy, 1913–76.) just says "Engl. loanword". --Catsidhe (verba, facta) 07:44, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Don't forget that Proto-Slavic isn't all that ancient. The Proto-Slavic form could be a borrowing from Latin. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Not rfv material as no definition is being called into question. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:30, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
What about {{rfv-etymology}} then? —CodeCat 14:34, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Spot on. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:39, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
The descriptions at kupus/купус say that Proto-Slavic *kǫpus(ta) is taken from Latin composita. I should have mentioned those links before, my apologies, I thought all links to it mentioned the Latin source. --80.114.178.7 19:00, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Closed. Not an RFV. — Ungoliant (Falai) 05:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC)