Talk:kitchen sink
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From Shoof (talk • contribs), known for indiscriminately churning out scads of entries on everything but the kitchen sink- except now they've thrown that in, too. This is purely SOP. Chuck Entz (talk) 00:52, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Delete. And don't create garage sink, bathroom sink, or art room sink, despite their attestability as phrases. Equinox ◑ 00:55, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- I agree that it's SoP of an adjectivised noun + a noun. What about translations, though? —CodeCat 00:57, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Doesn't it have a non-SoP sense too, the proverbial "kitchen sink"? Siuenti (talk) 03:10, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Not really. That has no idiomatic usage outside of the phrase in question, just as everybody and his cousin doesn't provide evidence for his cousin as an idiom (see everybody and their brother, everybody and his mother, everybody and their dog, etc).
- Keep. At COCA about 40% of the non-literal uses of kitchen sink are in everything but the kitchen sink. The other expressions are a heterogeneous lot, some involving forms of the verbs throw, throw in, and chuck, others using including, and other forms.
- In contrast and their relative/pet doesn't seem to occur apart form everybody/everyone and. The set of relatives can include cousin , and grandmother, but apparently not commonly in-laws. DCDuring TALK 05:19, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Not really. That has no idiomatic usage outside of the phrase in question, just as everybody and his cousin doesn't provide evidence for his cousin as an idiom (see everybody and their brother, everybody and his mother, everybody and their dog, etc).
- Keep an idiomatic sense per DCDuring. - -sche (discuss) 05:52, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Deleted on sight, along with other SoP crap from the same user. We could probably use the drama-related meaning. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:04, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- It doesn't seem appropriate to shoot down a term when respected contributors are advocating it. Keep per DCDuring, convenient for listing derived terms per anon below. DAVilla 12:52, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Note that there is
- kitchen sink chemistry, a synonym for amateur chemistry
- kitchen sink department, the Percussion section of an orchestra
- kitchen sink realism, a British cultural movement in the late 1950s and early 1960s
- kitchen sink syndrome, also known as "scope creep" in project management
- kitchen sink regression, a usually pejorative term for a regression analysis which uses a long list of possible independent variables
also kitchen sinks have a specific design to them. They're not simply a sink that's installed in a kitchen. They're specially designed as to wash dishes, and often times have a sprayer and a garbage disposal. Contrast with a kitchen phone, which is simply a phone that's in a kitchen. 4.238.7.140 10:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- There wasn't much in the entry. Also, I don't normally add entries without citations so the "burden" of not recreating the entry without citations is not relevant to me. DCDuring TALK 15:44, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Coincidentally I saw this term a few weeks ago in Wikibooks (here). — Ungoliant (Falai) 20:27, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
kept the current entry. -- Liliana • 15:50, 29 April 2013 (UTC)