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==== Support Option 1====
==== Support Option 1====
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# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' {{User:CodeCat/signature}} 01:57, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' {{User:CodeCat/signature}} 01:57, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' [[User:Equinox|Equinox]] [[User_talk:Equinox|◑]] 17:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' [[User:Equinox|Equinox]] [[User_talk:Equinox|◑]] 17:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
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# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' This is the standard Wiktionary favicon, the favicon used by all Wiktionary projects not using the Wikipedia favicon. [[User:Lmaltier|Lmaltier]] ([[User talk:Lmaltier|talk]]) 20:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' This is the standard Wiktionary favicon, the favicon used by all Wiktionary projects not using the Wikipedia favicon. [[User:Lmaltier|Lmaltier]] ([[User talk:Lmaltier|talk]]) 20:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' I don't think that new favicon is prettier, but it's better to have a new one to distinguish it from Wikipedia's icon. [[User:Maro|Maro]] 21:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' I don't think that new favicon is prettier, but it's better to have a new one to distinguish it from Wikipedia's icon. [[User:Maro|Maro]] 21:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


==== Oppose Option 1====
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==== Support Option 2====
==== Support Option 2====
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# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' option 2. (Also [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] '''oppose''' option 1, in case that isn't clear.) --[[User:Yair rand|Yair rand]] ([[User talk:Yair rand|talk]]) 19:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
# [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] '''Support''' option 2. (Also [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] '''oppose''' option 1, in case that isn't clear.) --[[User:Yair rand|Yair rand]] ([[User talk:Yair rand|talk]]) 19:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


==== Support status quo ====
==== Oppose Option 2====
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==== Abstain ====
==== Abstain ====
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#:I feel like my method of structuring the vote was extremely stupid. Now that 10 votes have been cast, 5 on each side, it may prove difficult for either to gain a supermajority. Also, how exactly would Yair's oppose vote be explicitly counted? Or is it oppose by default? —[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 02:54, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
#:I feel like my method of structuring the vote was extremely stupid. Now that 10 votes have been cast, 5 on each side, it may prove difficult for either to gain a supermajority. Also, how exactly would Yair's oppose vote be explicitly counted? Or is it oppose by default? —[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 02:54, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
#:: I think that lack of support should be automatically be counted as oppose. Maybe you could change the structure so that each of the two icons has separate support/oppose/abstain options? I think it would be safe to do that with the vote already running, since the support votes that are currently there wouldn't change. The status quo option may not need an option of its own then, since it's implicit that opposing both means supporting the status quo. {{User:CodeCat/signature}} 03:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
#:: I think that lack of support should be automatically be counted as oppose. Maybe you could change the structure so that each of the two icons has separate support/oppose/abstain options? I think it would be safe to do that with the vote already running, since the support votes that are currently there wouldn't change. The status quo option may not need an option of its own then, since it's implicit that opposing both means supporting the status quo. {{User:CodeCat/signature}} 03:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
#:::Sure, but if both options pass, then what? Can we just choose the one with a higher percentage? —[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 03:23, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


==== Decision ====
==== Decision ====

Revision as of 03:23, 11 January 2013

New favicon

  • Voting on: Changing our favicon (that little image found in various places in different browsers to designate the site, including just left of the URL line, on tabs, and in browsing history) to the image shown on the right. This is because the favicon we currently use is also employed by English Wikipedia, so changing ours will help differentiate our site and make it easier for readers. As can be seen below, discussions have raged for at least 6 years, with no result, but this vote attempts to change that.

Option 1:

Wiktionary test tab

Option 2:

Wiktionary test tab

This change would be brought about by filing a bug report at Bugzilla, asking them to change it per the documentation at mw:Manual:$wgFavicon.

  • Vote starts: 00:01, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Support Option 1

  1. Support —CodeCat 01:57, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support Equinox ◑ 17:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support SemperBlotto (talk) 17:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support This is the standard Wiktionary favicon, the favicon used by all Wiktionary projects not using the Wikipedia favicon. Lmaltier (talk) 20:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support I don't think that new favicon is prettier, but it's better to have a new one to distinguish it from Wikipedia's icon. Maro 21:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Oppose Option 1

Support Option 2

  1. Liliana likes this. -- Liliana • 00:21, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    If you really support our using that favicon, you should make it possible for us to do so, by assigning the copyright to WMF (or at least, explicitly stating that you are retaining the copyright for now, are not licensing it for any uses, and intend to assign the copyright to WMF should this option be selected). —RuakhTALK 18:42, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    It's actually an old revision of File:Wiktionary-ico-de.png, I just uploaded it here so I can embed it as an example. I doubt that an image of the string "['w]" is copyrightable. -- Liliana • 19:33, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Ugh, so you're saying you stole it. You should know better. I've now unstolen it for you. —RuakhTALK 20:09, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2. . — Ungoliant (Falai) 01:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support —CodeCat 01:57, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support Equinox ◑ 17:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support option 2. (Also oppose option 1, in case that isn't clear.) --Yair rand (talk) 19:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Option 2

Abstain

  1. Personally, I don't really care what favicon we use as long as it is unique, so I will vote only if needed to form a clear supermajority. @CodeCat, I didn't expressly forbid voting for multiple options, but just so you know, you're voting against yourself. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:10, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I am? I wanted to make clear that I support either option explicitly in favour of the status quo. So it's not quite an abstain. —CodeCat 04:15, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Well... I would think that any normal vote-closer would have to express each section's non-abstain votes as a fraction of the whole, and thus you would in fact be voting twice. To allay fears of dubious wikilegality, and solidify consensus in the face of the inevitable status-quoers or opposers, I think you should either choose one or wait it out like me. Naturally, however, the choice is yours to make. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:20, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I think CodeCat's voting makes sense. The default outcome of this vote (if neither new favicon gets a majority of votes) is that the current favicon stays. If one of the new favicons gets a majority of the requisite size, it wins. If both get majorities, the one with the larger majority wins. (The possibility that both will have large but tied majorities exists whether people vote for more than one option or not.) - -sche (discuss) 05:06, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree (w/-sche and CodeCat). IME, vote-closers do usually pay attention to these details. —RuakhTALK 17:36, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I feel like my method of structuring the vote was extremely stupid. Now that 10 votes have been cast, 5 on each side, it may prove difficult for either to gain a supermajority. Also, how exactly would Yair's oppose vote be explicitly counted? Or is it oppose by default? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 02:54, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I think that lack of support should be automatically be counted as oppose. Maybe you could change the structure so that each of the two icons has separate support/oppose/abstain options? I think it would be safe to do that with the vote already running, since the support votes that are currently there wouldn't change. The status quo option may not need an option of its own then, since it's implicit that opposing both means supporting the status quo. —CodeCat 03:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure, but if both options pass, then what? Can we just choose the one with a higher percentage? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:23, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Decision

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