Category talk:Rhymes:Greek

Proposal for delete

Proposal for 'delete' of Rhyme Categories 1) for inflectional suffixes like -a, -i, -os, ... and 2) also for 2nd combining forms belonging to compound lists

• 1) Example: Category:Rhymes:Greek/iThe -[i] ending (accented) might include practically half the vocabulary plus inflectional forms. Ending in -εί, -ή, -ί, -ύ, -οί. Thousands of words. At an appendix they might be described like: all 3rd singular persons in -εί of 1st conjugation active verbs, all learned adverbs -εί, all feminine nouns & adjectives -ή, all neuter nouns in -ί, all learned adverbs -ί, .... and so on.
  
• 2) Example: Category:Rhymes:Greek/eatɾo has only the compounds of θέατρο (théatro), which are listed at θέατρο#Related_terms#Compounds.

Dear administrator, @Saltmarsh, I do not think that suffixes of this kind should be presented for 'rhyme' Categories.
Also, I am not aware of a plan for 'rhymes' in Greek (accented? regardless of accent?) Perhaps, for some syllable combinations only, at the discretion of an editor of Greek, and after consulting some bibliography about it. A tool for getting multiple spellings of sounds is a Reverse Dictionary like Template:R:el:Reverse.
The very good Template:R:Papanastasiou Modern Greek Spelling has extensive lists of both systematic and non-systematic homophonic endings for Modern Greek. Also notifying M @Rodrigo5260 who adds many 'rhymes' for various languages and Greek. Thank you. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 20:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@Sarri.greek I don't think they'll pay you much attention here. Rodrigo5260 (talk) 14:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @Rodrigo5260, for your note. Never mind, it would interest editors of Greek, to perhaps read and consider the difficulties of this Category. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 15:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

@Sarri.greek I meant that it should be better to write it on the community portal, more specifically, on the Grease pit section. Rodrigo5260 (talk) 17:10, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

It is a subject as understood specifically for Greek. I don't think anyone would be interested at the big fora. There are no native speakers around. I left this note here for future editors. It will not be removed, and I added some bibliography for them. Gracias S @Rodrigo5260 ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 01:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I may mention this on the Discord server sometime soon. Rodrigo5260 (talk) 02:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

And PS. el.wiktionary does not have such a Category for 'rhymes' at all (but it has a Reverse Index wikt:el:Κατηγορία:Αντίστροφο λεξικό (νέα ελληνικά). ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 03:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

ok how about a morphemic analysis. Sorry I cant give a Greek example, but, in English, we have words like freeze which belong to Rhymes:English/iːz. But that category is for monomorphemic examples, so it isnt flooded with words that are just the plurals of the words in Rhymes:English/iː ... (although there are some because the Rhymes space isnt well-watched). Basically my idea is to keep all the categories, but exclude words that only fit there because of a final-stressed inflectional ending. again I dont know enough Greek to give even a single exmaple but if we say for example that τις and της DONT end in a transparent inflection then they would still be part of the category. —Soap— 11:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

maybe a better example would be -ist ~ -ista ~ etc. a lot of IE languages put the stress on this final ending. imagine a Spanish poet who rhymed artista and dentista ... am i right that this would be considered bad poetry? i note that we have not bothered creating Rhymes:Spanish/ista, and my assumption is that it would be pointless. —Soap— 11:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

whereas in my ideal setup, words like pista, which do not contain the morpheme -ista, would belong to that category, if we were to create it. —Soap— 14:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)