Talk:ניטלבוים

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A word every Yiddish speaker needs to know. --WikiTiki89 01:51, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

I thought the same myself. All of Category:yi:Christianity was suspiciously added by a Christian (and all needed formatting help). I'm hoping to be done with this stage in the struggle to format en.wikt's Yiddish component soon, so that I can get on to pure entry creation. But at this rate... —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 02:10, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
I created the category, but I didn't create any of the entries in it. Anyway, I don't see what's "suspicious" about it. People may well want to say things like "Some assimilated Jews put up a Christmas tree, but frum families like mine don't" in Yiddish, and this entry helps them do that. —Angr 16:31, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Er... that was meant as a joke. I like turning the 'Jewish world conspiracy' thing on its head by accusing Christians of trying to take over Yiddish literature, etc. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:31, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Oh the difficulties of explaining Jewish humor... --WikiTiki89 20:06, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I imagine Jewish humor, like all humor, is easier to understand in person than over the Internet, where tone of voice and facial expressions are lost. —Angr 20:11, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
<light sarcasm> What do you mean tone of voice and facial expressions are lost? ;) </light sarcasm> —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:21, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Much better. —Angr 23:30, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Off topic, but Yiddishly relevant: I don't know if you guys have noticed, but past participles in {{yi-verb}} and plurals in {{yi-noun}} will now create greenlinks if you click the 'Accelerate...' checkbox at WT:PREFS. Also, you can supply pl=s or pl=n for regularly formed noun plurals. (I hope I'm not going crazy, and you already know all this.) Thanks! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:44, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh ok. Thanks! --WikiTiki89 06:38, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
[sorry to sound like a blogger] I just found out that my father has a Yiddish copy of אינגל צינגל כוואט in a weird, YIVO-approved nonstandard orthography. Hope I can find time to enter quotes from it. Maybe I'll attain yi-1 after some more months of this. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:42, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
It's still funny we're having this conversation under a ניטלבוים. But how can a non-standard orthography be YIVO-approved? And what's weird about it? --WikiTiki89 07:11, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, well, it's here or Wiktionary talk:About Yiddish or one of our talkpages. Might as well be here. I think YIVO was once more flexible; the book is somewhat old, a reprinting with loose translation into English (also in verse). It's just weird because it points a lot of words that any beginner could figure out (like האָט) but it doesn't actually point as much as YIVO would want. Also, using ידיש ‎(ydish) and ינגל ‎(yngl) for ייִדיש ‎(yidish) and ייִנגל ‎(yingl) is a little unfamiliar to me. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 07:16, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
That is weird. I've seen אידיש ‎(idish) and ייִדיש ‎(yidish) but never ידיש ‎(ydish). Is Yingl Tsingl Khvat in the public domain? If so, it could be uploaded to Yiddish Wikisource. —Angr 17:30, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Dunno... I'll try to check in a week or so. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:39, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, it's living hell to transcribe. My fingers cursed me until I agreed to stop after a few stanzas. My progress can be seen at s:yi:אינגל צינגל כוואט. The orthography is so damn strange! If I didn't know that מעשה'לע was megile, I don't know how I would figure it out. It's so idiosyncratic, and the spellings change within a single stanza! Do you think it'll be of any use around here? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:33, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure someone will appreciate it someday! But I know what you mean. I had the same problem transcribing the works of Peader Ua Laoghaire in Irish at Multilingual Wikisource. His spellings are also highly idiosyncratic, and not even consistent with themselves. —Angr 09:20, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
What happened to the g in מעשה'לע? --WikiTiki89 17:45, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
I have no clue. Take a look at what I've typed up so far and your mind will be blown that YIVO sanctioned the reprinting of this. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 17:51, 23 December 2012 (UTC)