Talk:Oompa Loompa

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Kept. See archived discussion of January 2008. 05:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Oompa Loompa

I don't think it meets WT:FICTION well enough to be in the mainspace. Though, it could be moved to an appendix. TeleComNasSprVen 09:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

You do realise it survived the RfV process? ---> Tooironic 10:21, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Delete, not dictionary material. Surviving RFV does not make an entry immune from deletion at a later date. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Keep. Look at the citations. It has a distinct meaning that goes way beyond its fictional world. ---> Tooironic 21:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I am pretty sure we are missing the by extension sense of child or diminutive person. - [The]DaveRoss 21:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

The citations provide support for the existence of a term, but not for the several attributes of the encyclopedic definition with which the entry is saddled, to wit: "Any of the fictional dwarves who manufacture candy and sarcastically dispense songs of advice in Roald Dahl's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory."

I would look for support for dwarf, candy manufacture, sarcasm, advice-giving. The reference to the author and work would seem to belong only in the etymology. But from the last three cites I could get the attribute of "orange", which is not in the definition. From the Grossman and Trewin cites I could get "small". I can't get any particular meaning from the other citations. IOW, the citations only support a sense of "small orange human-like thing".

One problem is that we seem to lapse into definitions not descriptive of usage when we define proper nouns. That is, we depart from a linguistic project and instead embark on an encyclopedic one. Another is that the citations required to prove that a term is eligible for inclusion under WT:FICTION (or WT:BRAND, I think) do not necessarily show very much about the meaning. DCDuring TALK 05:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I've heard people compare the complexions of John Boehner and the cast of Jersey Shore to Oompa Loompas, so I would not be surprised if "orange-skinned" were as significant a sense as "dwarf". — Robin 03:07, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Keep and take to RfV. bd2412 T 18:06, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

kept, no consensus. Didn't take to RfV because it already passed there. -- Liliana • 14:01, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

interesting sound-alike...

The Yiddish אומגעלומפּערט (pronounced oomgeloompert) means 'awkward, shapeless, clumsy, ill-formed'--pretty apt description of Oompa-Loompas! Coincidence?? Tshikave (talk) 22:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

I imagine so. I don't recall the Oompa-Loompas being described as awkward or clumsy, merely as small in size. Equinox ◑ 22:51, 18 September 2022 (UTC)