Talk:feeze
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Rfv-senses To untwist; to unravel, as the end of a rope. and To beat; chastise; also, to humble; harass Notusbutthem (talk) 14:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- This is the same word as feeze, as a cursory comparison of the listed senses would confirm. I think it would be a benefit to the dictionary if we abandon the fease entry entirely and relegate it to alt form status. As far as etymologies are concerned, OED emphatically rejects the derivation from fēsan, so the etymology currently at feeze would survive the merge. We could list it at WT:RFM but ultimately if no one objects I'll just do it. This, that and the other (talk) 09:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good approach to me. I support you in that. Kiwima (talk) 01:12, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, I had a good go at the merger. Some of the remaining senses aren't in lemmings and also need to be RFV'd, but I'm going to add them to my list of words to bring to RFV when this page becomes less backlogged.
- I have actually split sense 2 (the sense under RFV) to two senses: "to beat" (literal, physical) vs "to humble" (figurative use), as they are quite different in nature. Feel free to revert this though.
- There are a few quotes in the entry, but they may be placed under the wrong sense. I'd appreciate a second look. This, that and the other (talk) 02:52, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good approach to me. I support you in that. Kiwima (talk) 01:12, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
cited. I think this entry needs cleanup, many of the definitions overlap. But let's wait on that until we have dispensed with this RFV. Kiwima (talk) 00:24, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 19:37, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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This word supposedly has 10 verb senses (OED only manages 8, one of which is figurative and two of which only have 1 cite) and 3 as a noun. Some of them likely don't exist, while others need to be de-Websterised and sorted out into actually useful definitions. (There are no fewer than 22 semicolons in the entry as it stands...) This, that and the other (talk) 09:56, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Also fease needs cleanup too. It is really an alt form but has its own set of definitions. This, that and the other (talk) 09:45, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
Done. This, that and the other (talk) 06:36, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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Okay, let's finish this one off. Rfv-sense of the following:
- noun: "A race; a run". This appears in Century as an unwarranted generalisation of our noun sense 3 (run-up). I just added a missing sense from OED and EDD: "A rush, impetus; hence, a violent impact. Also, a rub. Now dialect and U.S.". However, the specific sense of "race" seems unattested.
- verb: "To dawdle, loiter" (supposedly transitive - surely that is an error?). This is from Century lemma 4, where it is referred to a dialect word fasil or fasel, the latter of which is defined by OED as "to ravel" and derived from the same OE source as Middle English fass. Century references Halliwell, who perplexingly lists this sense on the same line as "to harass", and gives no source. Not in Webster, OED or EDD under fease or feeze. If this really does exist, it ought to go under a new etymology section.
- verb: "To fetch". No idea where this has surfaced from. Not in Webster, OED, EDD or Century.
Note also that I think the sense "to beat" should be merged with "to defeat, settle or finish"; the quotes we have under "to beat" are used in other dictionaries as evidence for "to settle". This isn't strictly an RFV matter, but I'm flagging it here for information. This, that and the other (talk) 04:41, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
RFV-failed. Kiwima went through this and added various cites, senses, etc. but evidently found nothing at all for the three impugned senses. This, that and the other (talk) 06:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC)