Talk:forban

RFV discussion: November–December 2020

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forban

Not present in any of the dictionaries that I swiftly checked, and we only have one citation.

It does correspond to similar verbs in other Germanic languages (and is claimed in our entry to be inherited from Middle English), but that does not mean anything with regard to modern usage. Tharthan (talk) 08:34, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

I've added 2 more cites. Leasnam (talk) 05:09, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

The 2013 quote is indirect, with the original text coming from an unpublished thesis[1] I can't see the text of. I suspect the use would have or should have been italicized in the original, indicating it was not considered a contemporary word. I am going to change the label to obsolete because it's a Middle English word that fell out of use, except for what I take as a deliberate poetic use of a forgotten word. Arguably that makes it archaic. Clark Ashton Smith died long ago so the date of that quote should be ante 1961. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 15:02, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

If the citations seem to suggest that it is being occasionally used poetically, then wouldn't (rare, poetic) be more sensible than (archaic, nonstandard) or whatever is being argued for right now? Tharthan (talk) 15:08, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

The poetic use turns out to be from 1918. Forban was considered obsolete when the OED (NED) got to the letter F in 1901. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 15:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

There is also a noun forban seen often in the plural forbans of x. Should this also be added ? Leasnam (talk) 21:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 22:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)