Talk:hop it

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"(offensive) fuck off", as distinct from first sense? Equinox 18:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

They should be merged without much debate (is any needed). The RFV for me should be whether this is just a verb, and hop it is the imperative, hence should be deleted and merged into the verb section. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:41, 10 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
I've added the verb, hoping I can cite it (or someone can cite it) in the next month. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:46, 10 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
It seems readily citeable as a verb, if only in such constructions as google books:"told him to hop it". Is this a Britishism? It doesn't ring any bells for Midwestern me. —RuakhTALK 00:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Cited by me, because Britons are lazy bums. ;-)   And de-tagged. —RuakhTALK 16:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Side-note: I don't think the vulgarity "fuck off" is ever appropriate as a definition line, only perhaps in a list of synonyms. Equinox 08:50, 7 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
I agree in this case, and mostly agree in general. I don't think we should ever use vulgarities in definitions of English terms, but we can mention them in non-gloss definitions ({{alternative form of|fuck}} and whatnot); and our definitions of foreign-language terms generally start with translations, which should be in the right register if possible. —RuakhTALK 11:31, 7 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

RFV failed, sense removed. —RuakhTALK 16:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

BTW, I've now listed the interjection at RFD. —RuakhTALK 16:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)Reply


Deletion debate

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I don't speak British, but the interjection seems redundant to the verb: it's just a normal imperative. (But the verb section might benefit from a usage note, or a non-gloss appendage to the sense line, mentioning that it's especially common as an imperative — if that's the case.) —RuakhTALK 16:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Keep as a set phrase. The term means to go away, not to "jump on one foot" for any part of the trip.--Dmol 09:12, 19 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
To clarify, I'm only suggesting that we delete the ===Interjection=== section. The verb, as you say, means "to go away", and I'm not suggesting we delete that. —RuakhTALK 01:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Seems comparable to (deprecated template usage) fuck off (where we do have an interjection) — unless the verb there is somehow a back-formation from the intj. I would say delete the intj at (deprecated template usage) hop it (since it is an imperative with identical sense) but perhaps mention in a usage note that it's most common as an imperative. Equinox 17:56, 19 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Delete per Talk:halt#Deletion debate. The verb sense covers this, and if I'm a reader (which I am, sometimes) I understand that the verb sense covers 'hop it' and not just 'hops it' (et al.) Mglovesfun (talk) 11:41, 20 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Delete. Per all of the above. - [The]DaveRoss 15:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

deleted -- Prince Kassad 22:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)Reply