Talk:illusion

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illusion

Rfv-sense: "(uncountable) The fact of being an illusion (in any of the above senses)." Which also includes {{rfex|this is totally unclear to me}}. I wanted to speedy delete this, but it has a translation table. Not sure what to do. Am tempted by all of rfd, rfc and this rfv. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:47, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

One approach I would favor; is there any uncountable definition of illusion that is citable? I can't imagine a plausible example, for example "there was some illusion that night" looks wrong. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, this search yields a raw count of more than 5,000 Books hits for "much|less illusion". At least one MWOnline definition (" the state or fact of being intellectually deceived or misled : misapprehension") seems to be for a potentially uncountable sense, but I haven't verified that there are citations that fit that definition. DCDuring TALK 15:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

• Would this fit the bill? 2003, Nicole Johnson, Keeping a Princess Heart: In a Not-So-Fairy-Tale World, page 14: "Singer Natalie Imbruglia put it this way: “Illusion never changed into something real. ...”". bd2412 T 13:42, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

  The citation fails to allow substitution of the definition. This RfV is well past its sell-by date. It has failed. I will insert an <<temp|rfdef>> for an uncountable sense, unless such a tag would fit one of the other definitions. DCDuring TALK 22:37, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

• Failed. Definition replaced. Some translations to be checked. DCDuring TALK 22:46, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

ἀλαζών

alazon=ἀλαζών Ancient Greek "...I matches Thracian Ἀλαζών (Ἀlazón) exactly, perhaps an appellative.[1] II cultural loanword from Akkadian 𒀀𒇻𒍣𒉡 aluzinnu, 'boastful, clownish fraud, most times pretending or claiming to possess medical skills or knowledge.' From Sumerian 𒀩𒍪 alanzu, 'clown... " https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%80%CE%BB%CE%B1%CE%B6%CF%8E%CE%BD Ari-elzoren66 (talk) 21:21, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Not a very good match: the vowels are wrong, and the fact that Latin illūsiō is a perfectly regular product of Latin illūdō + tiō/siō makes that a far more plausible origin- especially since the semantics fit perfectly. Chuck Entz (talk) 22:56, 16 February 2020 (UTC)