# Talk:maths

IS there some reason this British word isn't indicated as *British*? --Connel MacKenzie 02:12, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

- What do you mean, "isn't" ;) - TheDaveRoss 19:32, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Apostrophe[edit]

I was always taught at school that this should be written "math's" with the apostrophe denoting the missing letters from "mathematics" (cf. "isn't", etc.) There seems to be no mention of this form. Has "maths" without the apostrophe now become so prevalent that "math's" is out-dated? I'm British, BTW. 193.130.11.17 09:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

- math's is wrong. it is maths.

## Australia[edit]

Australians follow the English abbreviation of Mathematics and use "Maths" when referring to any kind of Mathematics, plural or not. I can see the logic of using an apostrophe to denote missing letters, but most Australians would not include the apostrophe.

## North America[edit]

While this use is plausible, I don't recall ever hearing it. Relative to *math* (used to mean multiple math courses) this is very rare. Is 'maths' more common in Canada? Is that why it isn't isn't tagged as 'rare'? --Connel MacKenzie 06:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

- Nobody in my corner of Ontario uses "maths". --Bran

## North America[edit]

Please provide a citation that there is actual colloquial usage of 'maths' in North America as the plural form of 'Math Course'. The term 'maths' is often mistakenly used as the plural for math, as a result of the speaker improperly assuming the plural of 'math' is 'maths' and ignoring the fact that 'mathematic' is the full word and therefore 'mathematics' is the correct plural form. British literature is rife with the usage of 'maths' as the plural to 'math course', however the same cannot be said about North American literature. Perhaps it's the geographical reference that is incorrect here.

The terms math (US) and maths (UK) are short forms of the same singular word - mathematics. I don't believe that the word "maths" is ever used as a plural (anywhere). SemperBlotto 21:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Currently the definition includes 'maths' as the colloquial usage for a plural form of 'math course'. This is what I am contesting. Under the second noun definition of 'maths' either the geographical reference is incorrect or the definition itself is incorrect.

I have come across the colloquial usage of 'maths' in North America, in mocking sarcastic usage when commenting on the poor mathematics skills of another person. However the usage is intended to be incorrect as it is intended to mock not correct. Eg. 'Their maths is no good.' Normally the term 'maths' in this usage is paired with intentional grammatic mistakes to accentuate the mocking tone of the sentence.

(Apologies I started this initially on the feedback page, perhaps it should be here)Mifdeath 22:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

The usage 'maths' as a colloquial plural usage for 'math course' would in this case makes 'maths' countable as in; "I am taking 6 maths." or, "How many maths are you taking?" Frankly this lends itself more to erroneous word usage than to colloquial speech. - Mifdeath 23:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

## Feedback[edit]

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## maths[edit]

Please provide a citation that there is actual colloquial usage of 'maths' in North America as the plural form of 'Math Course'. The term 'maths' is often mistakenly used as the plural for math, as a result of the speaker improperly assuming the plural of 'math' is 'maths' and ignoring the fact that 'mathematic' is the full word and therefore 'mathematics' is the correct plural form. British literature is rife with the usage of 'maths' as the plural to 'math course', however the same cannot be said about North American literature. Perhaps it's the geographical reference that is incorrect here.

- The terms
*math*(US) and*maths*(UK) are short forms of the same singular word -*mathematics*. I don't believe that the word "maths" is ever used as a plural (anywhere). SemperBlotto 21:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Currently the definition includes 'maths' as the colloquial usage for a plural form of 'math course'. This is what I am contesting. Under the second noun definition of 'maths' either the geographical reference is incorrect or the definition itself is incorrect.

I have come across the colloquial usage of 'maths' in North America, in mocking sarcastic usage when commenting on the poor mathematics skills of another person. However the usage is intended to be incorrect as it is intended to mock not correct. Eg. 'Their maths is no good.' Normally the term 'maths' in this usage is paired with intentional grammatic mistakes to accentuate the mocking tone of the sentence.

I copied and pasted the above into the discussion page under 'maths' Mifdeath 22:16, 29 May 2011 (UTC)