Wiktionary:Feedback

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Do you have general questions about the Wiktionary? See Help:FAQ. Q. Why don’t you provide audio files giving the pronunciations of all entries? A. The recording of audio files requires volunteer editors who have the right equipment and software, and who know how to upload these files to the Wikimedia Commons. All this is somewhat time-consuming, and it seems that at the moment we simply don’t have editors who are able to do this for us regularly. We suggest that you learn how to read the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) transcriptions of pronunciations. For English entries, you can visit Appendix:English pronunciation, which you can also reach by clicking on the “(key)” link next to the word IPA on entry pages. Q. How do I propose that a Wiktionary for another language be started? A. See incubator:Help:Manual. For questions about the Word of the Day, see Wiktionary:Word of the day/FAQ.

January 2023

autotelic

There are some red marks all over this page.

Perhaps you splattered blood on the screen to your device. Celui qui crée ébauches de football anglais (talk) 18:47, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

экскурсовод

Экскурсовод: Is this male form also used for feminine people or does the form Exkursovodka or so exist?

--Rasmusklump (talk) 00:42, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

The female word exists, but not sure how common it is used, since the russian wiktionary page shows a female tourguide with caption "экскурсовод". Try google ngrams perhaps. Bitternis (talk) 09:07, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Kazakh:Transliterations

Considering that Kazakh uses three writing scripts, and it is uncommon for definitions to be written in all three. Would it be possible to use the automatic transliterator utilized by Kazakh Wikipedia to create versions for every script? Only the words themselves require transliteration, and the definitons themselves can just be the same copy-and-pasted. The transliteration bot could also add a table to every definition showing every version of the word. That way wiktionary could help all Kazakh speakers regardless of what script they know. Unless, for some technical reason, that isn't possible.

Just thought I'd put the idea out there, I don't know if its possible or not.

Sameerhameedy (talk) 02:38, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Appendix:Glossary

Trying to find when an edit was done removing an entry.

In regular WikiPedia, there are tools to search for changes, but I don't see them here.

Westley Turner (talk) 05:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

@Westley Turner: WikiBlame also works with Wiktionary, if you're looking to find out when specific text was added to or removed from a page. If by "removing an entry" you are referring to deletion of an entire page, then usually just clicking a link to the page in question will show you the deletion log; you can also go to Special:Log/delete and enter the title. If neither of those answers help you, maybe you could be more specific about what you are looking for. 70.172.194.25 06:10, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

retropropulsion

Hello everybody who sees this, but I want to give everybody a disclaimer that retropropulsion does not mean anything medical. They mixed it up with the word retropulsion. It's alright, but make sure to remember that when you're searching next. Thanks! —⁠This unsigned comment was added by 68.102.110.92 (talk) at 02:10, 13 January 2023.

Great find, thank you very much for pointing this out! I note that even all the quotations for the medical sense use "retropulsion" instead of "retropropulsion". I will send this through our formal verification process. 70.172.194.25 02:15, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I like how the original editor claimed to know "well enough to not go anywhere near defining rocket science terms." Celui qui crée ébauches de football anglais (talk) 18:49, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

ability

Can someone please update the usage notes on this page? The language used is very pompous and excessively complicated for a basic word in English. I've never heard anyone use the word promptitude; surely this can be improved? I see that this wording has been in place for 20 years now which is unbelievable. 2A02:C7C:72C1:A600:FC52:547:90C3:2C37 16:30, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for bring this to our attention. It was copied pretty much word for word from the 1913 Webster's Unabridged Dictionary before we had much in the way of standards for such things. It's out of copyright, but even if it wasn't virtually unreadable we would want to get rid of the plagiarism. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:24, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I just deleted it Celui qui crée ébauches de football anglais (talk) 18:50, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Foreign word of the day: रसना

Nice that you have a Word of the Day box, but... Would there be any chance of us getting an option to choose which languages we would like to see in this box? Perhaps, we could use this as an aid to help us with the languages we intend to learn, as it is my case. Thanks in advance and congratulations on the huge, wonderful work you've done here. As a writer, a translator, and a poet I'm simply in love with Wiktionary!!! 177.73.201.180 17:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words!

I agree that it would be nice to have such a feature, but it wouldn’t really be feasible to maintain a human-curated schedule of high-quality, interesting entries in each of the hundreds of languages supported by Wiktionary. Perhaps the curation could be automated, or we could only support a few popular languages for which people volunteer to curate entries. That said, I haven’t seen any interest in this idea from other editors or readers so I wouldn’t hold my breath.

A possible (but not ideal) substitute is to just visit a random entry in the language you’re interested in. For example, this link will bring up a random Ancient Greek entry:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:RandomInCategory/Ancient_Greek_lemmas

You might have to try it a few times to get something interesting. 70.172.194.25 16:26, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Category:English_countable_nouns

There are a tremendous amount of unnecessary, and possibly even invalid, words listed as "common countable nouns" in these pages (for example most names, being technically Proper nouns, but also words like "abcee"...) I'm specifically in need of a list of ten to fifty thousand common countable nouns that can be easily pictured, describable objects or states of being--I've tried and tried but can't seem to find such a list, is there one?

allegra

Etymology 2 points to the wrong verb.

208.83.169.203 15:04, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I fixed it. Drapetomanic (talk) 16:16, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Reconstruction:Proto-Kartvelian/ɣwino-

I'm not familiar with Wiktionary, but isn't this a bit too much sources? —⁠This unsigned comment was added by ADT's wiki account (talk • contribs).

The sources are a little stacked and awkward and this is definitely more sourcing than we typically have, but it's not obvious to me that this is too much. The content is verging on more encyclopedic than dictionary, tho, I will give you that. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:05, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

I’d rather have too many references than too few. 70.172.194.25 16:11, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

wayn

Hi, thank you

I find it so interesting that Arabic "Wayn" -> " Where" - homophone with "wayn" vein "-> "

complacency

Thank you.

February 2023

SSN

"SSN" is also the acronym for "Servizio Sanitario Nazionale" in Italian.

Laura

Category:Italian_euphemisms

I think that the majority of these aren't correct

The word "slide"

Slide also refers to "a digital piece of a presentation; usually have multiple".

That’s noun sense 10. — Sgconlaw (talk) 13:42, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Images not appearing

Hey there. I just thought I'd point out that I'm not seeing the hieroglyphic images for any of the Ancient Egyptian entries. Just FYI...

“Nick”

Fixed, thanks for reporting this. 70.172.194.25 16:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Word of the day: Lantern Festival

The first word of the second entry has a redlink. (unsigned comment not added by Three citations, for all senses. (talk) 01:18, 5 February 2023 (UTC).)

I don’t think we should completely remove it, because it helps to identify what is being referenced. We could change the link to point to a relevant English (or Thai) Wikipedia article, if desired. We could also just add it to WT:Requested entries (Thai) and hope someone gets around to creating it. How would you like to proceed? 70.172.194.25 16:08, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I left it as a redlink because I don’t speak Thai and so can’t create the entry. — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

That was what I was thinking. CitationsFreak: Accessed 2023/01/01 (talk) 23:27, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

сосочек

Can som,eone please add the definition papilla to the page сосочек, thank you

Stress is like this сосо́чек, it is a different word to the other word listed.

Thanks, added. Tetromino (talk) 20:34, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Appendix:Ancient_Greek_correlatives

Hello and thank you for the work done. I can't find any information about the author of this work. Would it be possible to know who established it ? Student, teacher...? —⁠This unsigned comment was added by 2A01:CB15:82AB:7600:5142:3D5C:1A5B:CAD4 (talk) at 15:48, 7 February 2023 (UTC).

You can click the history tab at the top of any page to see that information. In this case, the page was created by Erutuon based on Smyth's Greek Grammar, but has since been edited by others. 70.172.194.25 15:57, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

paczkis

Paczkis is not correct. Paczki is already plural (paczek is the singular). PLEASE REMOVE THIS PAGE. —⁠This unsigned comment was added by Carmendick2223 (talk • contribs) at 16:30, 7 February 2023 (UTC).

In English, paczkis is attested as the plural of paczki.^[1] You're right that in Polish, pączki (note the ogonek) is the plural of pączek (the type of doughnut); and likewise, paczki (note the lack of ogonek) is the plural of the unrelated word paczka. AFAICT, neither paczkis nor pączkis are valid word forms in Polish, but both can be found in English (as pluralizations of the doughnut). English speakers often disregard grammatical features of source languages of loanwords.

The entry was fine until earlier today, when someone added the incorrect information. I have reverted it back. 70.172.194.25 18:26, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

And now someone has replaced the content of paczkis with a prescriptivist message saying it’s wrong. I think this would be best handled in the etymology or usage notes section of the lemma. 70.172.194.25 01:22, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

throw back

There's a definition missing. To throw back a beverage means to drink it not-slowly. —71.105.243.101 09:25, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Word of the day: Isonade

"said to live of the west coast" → "said to live off the west coast". That construction, "off the coast", means in the sea beyond the coast. Quercus solaris (talk) 04:33, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

@Quercus solaria: mmmm, yes. What’s your question? — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:44, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

On the Main Page, there is a typo that says "of the coast". The typo is not present at the entry itself. Quercus solaris (talk) 04:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks. — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

μοντέλο

In definition 4, μοντέλο is given as a synonym of itself. In addition, the only sense of manikin that fits this definition of μοντέλο is the alternative spelling of mannequin, so manikin should just be deleted. —71.105.243.101 13:53, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much, synonym fixed. English spellings at the Greek section: we usually provide immediately all possible spellings (alternative, US, UK) like modelling, modeling too. Happy Weekend! ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 20:39, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

deer

Good morning,

I just would like to point out that the second deer pictured in the article is not a reindeer but a red deer, as mentioned in the picture's caption.

Keep up the good work and have a nice day!

Cheers, 78.123.134.95 06:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

иронизирующий

Why does clicking on ионизирующее send to the page иронизирующий? Thank you

cheese_with_that_whine

"Whine and cheese" popularised by Phil McGraw, probably right. But it is popularised by song "Whine and cheese" by Nuclear Assault rock band, you can see here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY8PhyBd5ik. According to my opinion, Nuclear Assault did worldwide job better that Mr Phil McGraw.

Wiktionary:Feedback

I think that Wikimedia in general, particularly Wiktionary and Wikibooks, if the wikis were a bit more cross-linked, treated as one huge library.

Many people only know about Wikipedia, and that is quite a shame.

So many people complain that the web is too bloated, that pages load way too slowly. Tons of people are saying that someone should make web apps that are simpler, that don't have tons of videos and ads. ... And you have. You're the first thing that comes to mind. If you look up a recipe anywhere else, you get tons of spam and garbage, a simple recipe for waffles takes like fifteen minutes to finish loading. But a recipe on Wikibooks takes under a second usually! I honestly am shocked that nobody knows about this!

You really should look into this. Unifying Wikimedia, better publicity, and showing the world what they're missing. I'll spread the word, myself.

mæri

It would be great include from IPA transcription of word to English. See example.

σκουλήκι

In the example of the use of the word in the fourth definition, καταβροχθίζει is in the present tense but gnawed is in the past tense. Also, both the English and Greek Wiktionaries translate καταβροχθίζω as "devour"; figuratively devouring someone happens more quickly than gnawing at him, I think. —71.105.243.101 13:47, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, fixed. You may correct things too: no need to log-in. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 23:44, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

strategist

The written and audible English pronunciation of the word is different. 2A01:36D:115:EC9A:7CE1:E303:AD53:69AB 16:02, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Good point, see my comment on the talk page. Drapetomanic (talk) 21:15, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

αιρετικός

The definition of this word as a noun is included in the adjective section (mimicking the entry in the Greek Wiktionary). Shouldn't there be a separate noun section? —71.105.243.101 19:56, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes, there could be a repetition of the masculine, with note: substantivised. Thank you ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 23:46, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

garganelle

You have an entry for "garganelle", but no definition or usage!

That is because it is a plural form, as the definition indicates ("plural of garganella"). To see the definition, click on the word garganella. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

March 2023

抄家

抄家 in Chinese means to punish all of your family members to punish you harder. Sometimes, the ancient government in China took all of your family's money away and forced all of your family members to be slaves. This is called 抄家. Sometimes, they will kill all males in this family, giving women to senior officials as gifts.

без

Hello!

My dictionary says "Without thinking" means без толку. Thats strange. без is with Geninive and толку (from толк) is Dative.

If this phrase exist please add it as phrase with an Usage note that this is an exemption,

thanks.

Thanks, the wiktionary entry for без was incomplete: this preposition applies to noun phrases in the genitive or partitive. In this context, толку is the partitive form of толк (and it happens to coincide with dative). Tetromino (talk) 18:23, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

I have also added an entry for без толку since it's not just a sum-of-parts. Tetromino (talk) 19:24, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

autochthonous

Where does Google get the language they show to me in their SERP? I searched this term, saw a definition and a dispute over its accuracy and went to the Wiktionary page where none of the language quoted and presented by Google as coming from this URL. So, where is the Google referenced terms? Google showed this: https://en.wiktionary.org › wiki › autochthonous autochthonous - Wiktionary 3 days agoNative to the place where found; indigenous. 1889, Justin Winsor, Narrative and Critical History of America, volume I, page 375: Two of the most celebrated of the evolutionists reject the autochthonous view, for Darwin's Descent of Man and Haeckel's Hist. of Creation consider the American man an emigrant from the old world, whatever way the race I could find none of it at the page for this word within Wiktionary. Thanks for your great work. Jamie Powers

Special:Search

Thank you, so much thank you, for not taking Vector (2022) appearance. Wiktionary is one rock left in my life, which hasn't been corrupted/ruined during last fourteen years. It would depress me, if Wiktionary should fall to the Vector (2022) disease. 2600:1700:6880:3570:EDC0:D01F:30C6:475F 15:38, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

cowabunga

In the definition of Kowabunga, it was made famous by Chief Thundercloud, not Thunderdud. Thank you.

Nope, Chief Thundercloud is a different chief. Van Man Fan (talk) 22:03, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

חוה

Love you. ❤️ 24.133.84.2 21:57, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

And we love you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:56, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

User:J3133

Hi, I created the page "pimo", but it was deleted. However, the related expression "pomi" is allowed in Wiktionary... which makes little sense, since "pimo" is more commonly used.

Ref. pomi and "https://avoidjw.org/life-stories/pimo/"

Thank you. —⁠This unsigned comment was added by Robingale (talk • contribs) at 07:56, 8 March 2023 (UTC).

@Robingale: See Talk:pimo: because it was deleted due to failing Wiktionary’s verification process (in 2021), it cannot be recreated without valid citations provided in the recreated entry (3 durably archived uses are needed per our criteria for inclusion). J3133 (talk) 19:28, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

chlorolichen

L'anzie mousse-noire (Black-foam lichen) est un chlorolichen.

Word of the day: peter out

I like these "get your mind out of the gutter" theme. I understand spatchcock and horny-handed being double meaning. But I want to get my head "in the gutter" to understand the connection with peter out - is it connected to French péter - fart? —⁠This unsigned comment was added by 90.160.207.25 (talk) at 03:17, 9 March 2023‎.

Ha, ha, I was thinking of peter (etymology 1). — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:31, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

napkin

Napkin in America, is a square piece of cloth or paper used at a meal to wipe the fingers or lips and to protect garments, or to serve food on.

quotations and examples

as an alien (french is my mother tongue), i'm very often disappointed by much too many articles where quotations and examples are of low quality and where quotations and examples do not answer my questions

example: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/available

do we have to use available TO or available FOR (or anything else), there is NO example!?!?

i encountered this problem in 100s (if not more) of articles: i could spend my time mentioning this issue, unfortunately

is there no project about that? thanks in advance

31.10.170.133 08:44, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Reconstruction:Latin/tuto

I don't get it. How do you get from "protect" to "extinguish"? That's almost the exact opposite of protection. --2600:8804:481:F300:E1F2:207A:DB07:4C04 03:32, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Palestine Why does this article insist that Palestine existed before the creation of the British Mandate?

The prior use of that area of the Middle East always was the original homeland of Israelis including those on the east bank and west bank ... In Roman times it definitely was this area{including what is called today the Gaza strip. and land conquered during the 300 years after David (Assyria, Moab, Edom, also included the portions of Israel that had been conquered by Assyria, Arameans, Edom Moab and the resurgent Philistines, It included the area that much earlier was the unconquered Philistines and Gaza strip which was defeated finally by David when Israel was at its intended boundaries. Even in the jihad of the early disciples of Muhammad Israel was honored as being people of the book [Christians and Jewish people], so it was forbidden to kill them even if they did not believe in Muhammad. {All others were killed including Arabs.} —⁠This unsigned comment was added by 47.215.217.154 (talk).

There's a lot of irrelevant content here, but the reason why our entry on Palestine mentions a "Palestine" existing before the British mandate is because the term "Palestine" was used prior to the early 20th century. It's no more complicated than that. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:56, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

γύφτος

@Sarri.greek Is ΑΤΚ truly a synonym of γύφτος? There is no entry for it in the Greek Wiktionary. (I searched for both the string alpha-tau-kappa and the string of the similar-looking English characters there.) —71.105.243.101 22:12, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, it was an old bad insertion. You may delete such thing ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 22:17, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Appendix:The_99_names_of_Allah

There is a . next to The Beneficent

totaliter

totaliter is also a an adverb in latin, meaning "wholly", "totally", "completely" and such (https://latin-dictionary.net/definition/37381/totaliter)

jakubino

a_medida_que

Keep it as it is. It's among the best things to use in the whole internet, at least for me. I use it to translate by looking at the meaning given in other languages in Wiktionary, instead of using Google translator or something similar. It's really helpful for definitions of new words, as well as pronunciations of multiple verb conjugations. I don't really like layout changes, and I think the current one fits the English Wiktionary

ubuntu

மனிதநேயம்

Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/(s)kerb-

pretty cool root hope somebody adds it =)

Appendix:Russian_Frequency_lists

For language frequency lists, there should be something to indicate what data the list was generated from.

how's_things

Is How's things by you? also an expression, or did I just imagine it? —71.105.243.101 17:20, 28 March 2023 (UTC)