Talk:niggerati

RFD discussion: July–September 2023

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niggerati

In favor of Niggerati which is a proper noun. Key Jam (talk) 22:21, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

We wouldn't delete either, just have one say "alt form of...". Also, I think we should "redirect" to whichever one is/was more used, not based off grammar. cf (talk) 01:48, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

It's not an alt form, as spelling it lowercase is wrong. It's a proper noun. Notice the Wikipedia entry it links to does not use the lowercase version anywhere. Key Jam (talk) 20:15, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Agreed. Should it be labelled as potentially offensive? DonnanZ (talk) 12:47, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

No, strong keep since both forms are used. This should be an RFV (seeking evidence), not a blanket call for deletion of a real existing form. Equinox ◑ 20:18, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Please provide a source of the lowercase version being used. Key Jam (talk) 20:21, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Have added 3 citations. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 20:27, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Keep per eq. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 20:28, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Strong keep, per Eq. (Although this could actually be an alt-form of Niggerati. I'll double check later.) cf (talk) 20:53, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Did some Google Ngramming, turns out that the uppercase form is more common now, but the lowercased form was as common as the uppercased one during 1940-60. cf (talk) 21:03, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

See also WT:Etymology scriptorium/2023/August § Niggerat(t)i  --Lambiam 10:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Strong keep, this is not a valid rationale for deletion in itself. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 19:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Kept. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 07:54, 6 September 2023 (UTC)