Talk:see the dark side of the moon

RFV discussion: August–September 2018

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see the dark side of the moon

"To do something exceedingly difficult or nearly impossible, sometimes dangerous as well, for a cause" SURJECTION _{·talk·contr·log·} 15:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

cited (although I removed the "for a cause"). Kiwima (talk) 00:40, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

The 2000 cite ("like seeing the dark side of the moon, or stepping through a looking glass") suggests that here it might mean something like "seeing a reverse or opposite". Equinox ◑ 00:42, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

The citations from 2014 and 2017 may fit the definition, but the other two? The one from 2000 seems suggest "to see into another world". The 1999 which draws a parallel between seeing and opinions doesn't make sense except possible metonymically. 'Reading the opinion' is like 'seeing ....'. If so, that fits the second meaning.

Note that my reading and Equinox of the 2000 differ, so there is reason to be skeptical about either of our interpretations, ie, the meaning is at best ambiguous.

Does every rare metaphor need a definition in Wiktionary? DCDuring (talk) 03:26, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I might be willing to accept DCD's definition for the "looking glass" cite but not Kiwima's, which seems irrelevant to it. You need to be really careful with these rare phrases to read the surrounding text and check what they are talking about. It is very tempting to say "look, I found three people using the phrase" and not check how they were using it. BEWARE. Equinox ◑ 04:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

RFV-resolved Definition was made less specific. Kiwima (talk) 02:06, 28 September 2018 (UTC)