Talk:simp

Is "simp" exclusively AAVE?

I'm not sure whether "simp" in the second verb form listed on the article is actually squarely AAVE. I've found an example from the 1988 episode of Red Dwarf, "Thanks for the Memory," where the word is used to mean that someone is being emotionally vulnerable and overly submissive to somebody. The exact quote from Lister is "And Captain Hollister? Mr Fat Bastard 2044. I went out of my way to simp around him." 80.192.129.228 22:51, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

If it was, it's not anymore. This word is very common all of a sudden and while Im sure itll slowly fall out of fashion like other fads do, it's not going to disappear. :Anyone know what exactly triggered this fad? Some celebrity somewhere saying it? Or is it just a chance occurrence? —Soap— 13:51, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't see this on the page, so maybe I found it somewhere else. But since this is back up for discussion, I want to add that I'd read somewhere that the 1988 Red Dwarf quote was actually simper around him, which was difficult to hear distinctly, and therefore got mis-transcribed. —Soap— 12:44, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

YouTube-related meaning

Another Addition needed.

1. (slang) A person who exhibits undue devotion and admiration in a parasocial manner.
   • See common usage on Breadtube and Leftube, as exhibited by streamers such as Vaush and Xanderhal.

Another etymology?

Is the etymology not an acronym for Sucker Idolizing Mediocre Pussy/Penis, and then it became a standalone word? — This unsigned comment was added by 83.248.169.136 (talk) at 10:37, 12 July 2020 (UTC).

Exactly. Seems like wikipedia doesn't check their facts. And it's not possible to edit anymore either? — This unsigned comment was added by 2001:999:52:393d:389d:808d:743:845f (talk) at 17:03, 3 August 2020 (UTC).

Etymologies based on acronyms are almost always wrong, and this one is weaker than most. What we already have is much more plausible. As for being able to edit: if people would stop adding the names of their bosses, colleagues, and anyone else they don't like to the entry, we wouldn't have to protect it. They may think they're being clever and original, but it's been going on for the past decade or so, in one entry or another. Oh, and speaking of checking facts: please note that this is Wiktionary, not Wikipedia. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:34, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Pardon me but I thought is was well known that the etymology for simp was merely a short slang form of 'simpering' which then was creatively used as a pejorative noun. It is the same meaning, same description of behaviour, and implies the same scorn, yet I see people have incorrectly listed all these unrelated words with similar letters in what appears to be a work of random guessing. Please add the correct etymology. The word is SIMPERING. Hellbeest (talk) 07:35, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

That was my initial assumption too, but we can't act like we know it just based on opinions. The 1988 quote up above shows that this could have been a low-frequency word with a surprisingly long history. —Soap— 23:35, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

While I agree that we can't just assume we know it, we can surely say some etymologies are wrong right? Sissy + pimp is almost definitely wrong and "symp"(athetic) is even more likely to be wrong. The cool numel (talk) 19:52, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

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simp

Rfv-sense "(slang, by extension) Someone (of any gender) who foolishly overvalues someone else and defers to them, putting them on a pedestal." Some editors are arguing that this could also be used gender-neutrally. — surjection ⟨??⟩ 16:21, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Some discussion can also be found over here. — surjection ⟨??⟩ 17:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

That word had been well and truly overused so yes it is now very general. See [1] (“Simping for a girl” — or a guy, since it’s not just straight men using the term ... But “simp” has evolved into an even larger meme ... You can be a simp for a celebrity) – Nixinova [‌T|C] 02:56, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

cited Kiwima (talk) 23:16, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 20:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

# 3 An advocate for an ideology or cause.

Can someone show an example of such usage? Synotia (talk) 10:38, 18 May 2023 (UTC)