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Etymology 2[edit]

From Middle English tene, from Old English tēona (reproach, wrong, harm)[7], from tēon (to accuse)[3], cognate with Old Norse tȳna (to lose)[4], from Old Norse tjōn (loss, damage)[7][Skeat]. Another possible cognate with Old English TĒONA is Gaelic TINN (sick)[4] Andrew H. Gray 06:54, 23 November 2017 (UTC)Andrew; but this is like pioneering on the Entry Page, that is forbidden in the Etymology Rules: please see my User Page. After the likely Proto-Germanic root, the sourced etymology was, I am afraid, wandering off into an imaginary 'cool' connection with the substantiated Proto-Indo-European root, that tends to be typical, in some lexemes, of that source; but usually only applies to the earlier roots! Andrew H. Gray 11:12, 1 October 2016 (UTC) Andrew (talk)

[0] means 'Absolutely not; [1] means 'Exceedingly unlikely'; [2] means 'Very dubious'; [3] means 'Questionable'; [4] means 'Possible'; [5] means 'Probable'; [6] means 'Likely'; [7] means 'Most Likely' or *Unattested; [8] means 'Attested'; [9] means 'Obvious' - only used for close matches within the same language or dialect, at linkable periods. √ means original or earliest root.

RFV discussion: December 2021[edit]

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Rfv-sense: To hedge or fence in; to enclose. Notusbutthem (talk) 11:57, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I added the one cite the EDD had; it also suggests eye and hedge as collocands (maybe also door), as in "to teen a hedge", "teened hedge", "teen'd my eye". - -sche (discuss) 20:04, 18 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • 1919, Devonshire Association for the Advancement of Science, Literature and Art, Report and Transactions of the Devonshire Association for the Advancement of Science, Literature and Art, page 75:
    It is still heard in Devon , especially by older dialect speakers, in such expressions as “I'an't a - teen'd my eyes all night”; “Teen the door, will ' e?” A.-S. tynan, to fence, enclose, shut.

- -sche (discuss) 00:26, 19 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

cited Kiwima (talk) 07:16, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 19:47, 30 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Possible new use of the word 'teen'[edit]

Up to now it's been considered a synonym of teenager, and a teenager is defined as aged at least 13. But Vanity Fair ( https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/06/warner-bros-aware-they-have-an-ezra-miller-problem ) in an article yesterday stated that "And finally, a second restraining order was taken out against them to protect another teen". Following the hyperlink from that second sentence (i.e. it's info that the author of the piece must have been aware of), it clearly states that the teen in question is aged 12 ( https://www.thedailybeast.com/12-year-old-granted-order-of-protection-against-ezra-miller ). Is this a new definition of "teen"? Should there be a usage note to say that some people now use the term "teen" to refer to 12-year-olds, although this usage is questionable?