Talk:what the Sam Hill

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Like the fuck, the dickens, the Devil, the hell. We've been redirecting to those forms from whatever fuller forms we enter. DCDuring TALK 18:10, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm very dubious of the current meaning given at Sam Hill -- I'd always understood it to be a simple euphemism for "damned hell" -- but otherwise a redirect seems reasonable. -- Visviva 18:34, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
"Where in Sam Hill is he?" So, unlike some of the others the redirect should be to the form without "the". Possibly the same should be true for terms involving dickens if it is ever used without "the", as in "where in dickens is he?" For the others we lose the user in the longer entries, I fear. A user-needs-justified inconsistency? DCDuring TALK 16:55, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, redirect.​—msh210 20:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Redirected.​—msh210 22:10, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

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what the Sam Hill

Etymology is a mess. --Connel MacKenzie 15:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I have now edited this quite a bit, but I left the clean-up tag since the exact quotation is still needed. -- WikiPedant 14:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
An American Glossary - Page 762
by Richard Hopwood Thornton - 1912
1868 1839 What in sam hill is that feller ballin' about ? ... He had bought him
a little bobtailed mouse-colored mule, and was training him like Sam Hill. ...
Also, I didn't find "Sam Hill" in TKAM, but it does seem to be present in the "Play" adaptation for Broadway. But searching "Sam Hill" on b.g.c. shows that it is much older than that etymology suggested. (Thank you for cleaning that up, BTW.) --Connel MacKenzie 08:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)