Talk:windle
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Kiwima in topic RFV discussion: July–October 2017
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Rfv-sense: Plantago lancelata, dog-tail grass (dog's tail grass, dogtail grass, dogtail, dog-tail, dog's tail?).
I can't find it in online sources. There is a genus Cynosurus (dogstail). DCDuring (talk) 03:16, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Found some references to windle-grass. I can't verify the specific species. DTLHS (talk) 03:25, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about the distinction with "bent grass", maybe the senses could be merged. DTLHS (talk) 03:28, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- The glossary citation is a mention and refers both to P. lanceolata and to the stalks of grassy plants in general, which is consistent with other usage and some definitions of windle in other dictionaries.
- The one specific name (besides windle) in the citations is of crested dog's tail, which is taxonomically Cynosurus cristatus. DCDuring (talk) 18:12, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Wright's English Dialect Dictionary (1909) has, for one set of definitions of windle:
- 1. sb. A long stalk of grass or corn; a dry stalk of grass left standing in a field. n.Cy. The straw of wild grass (hall.). w.Yks.2, Lan.1, s.Lan.1, Chs.18, Der.2, nw.Der.1
- 2. Comp. (1) Windle-grass, a lank, parched stalk of grass; (2) -straw, (a) a stalk of withered grass, esp. of the crested dog-tail grass, Cynosurus cristatus, or of the white couch-grass, Triticum repens.
- Thus, we have reasonable evidence for a more general sense of windle, but not the one(s) in our entry. BTW, bentgrasses are Agrostis spp. I haven't yet found evidence in support of that definition either. DCDuring (talk) 18:30, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about the distinction with "bent grass", maybe the senses could be merged. DTLHS (talk) 03:28, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I altered the definition to be more generic. I am now calling this cited Kiwima (talk) 05:16, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
RFV-resolved Kiwima (talk) 09:49, 29 October 2017 (UTC)