User talk:And we drown

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Again, welcome! --Mglovesfun (talk) 11:19, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Altaic and Korean[edit]

I noticed you've been adding etymologies to some Korean entries, including etymologies in Altaic. Altaic is a hypothesis that hasn't yet been agreed upon by linguists. The consensus on Wiktionary is that we should not add any Altaic etymologies to entries. I'm also not sure what 'Proto-Korean' is, since Korean is a language isolate I don't know what its 'common ancestor' would be. So could you please remove those etymologies? —CodeCat 17:02, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

All language families are hypotheses and there can never be absolute certitude. However, Altaic has plenty of evidence which I think should be documented here. Who decided that Altaic is somehow inferior to any other linguistic theory? Why can't it be on here? Also, Korean is not a language isolate, there used to be a few Korean languages (i.e. Silla) which descended into modern Korean and the Jeju dialect. And of course, Korean is part of Altaic, so once again it's not an isolate.

Again, I ask you, why should this linguistic evidence be ignored, especially when I have sources and I am documenting them on the pages I'm editing? —And_we_drown

I'm just speaking for community consensus, I have no personal opinions on this. The community has agreed to not allow Altaic etymologies, since the category Category:Altaic languages failed a request for deletion. There is also a short discussion in the Beer Parlour about this topic, with the same conclusion. If you disagree you can continue that discussion. —CodeCat 17:13, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Could you direct me to that discussion in the Beer Parlour? It would be much appreciated. —And_we_drown

It's at Wiktionary:Beer parlour#Altaic languages. —CodeCat 17:20, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Miyako Language Sources?[edit]

Hi there. I'm curious on where you got some Miyako words from. Besides, I think it's courteous to let others know about what languages you excel in with a user page of your own. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 08:29, 4 June 2012 (UTC) --And we drown 13:04, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

The font in there isn't displaying correctly on my monitor. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 20:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
I am a bit confused by your source. Indeed, you have created アママン but the website says the translation of the word "water" is ミズ ( Am I wrong? Pamputt (talk) 14:30, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Please, could you answer? I would like only to know if there is a mistake and if the correct work is ミズ (I do not speak Japanese). Thanks in advance. Pamputt (talk) 10:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


Please be careful when adding translations, especially in languages you're not very familiar with. For example, add genders and follow Wiktionary guidelines like WT:RU TR for Russian transliteration. Thanks! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 07:36, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


Hi. In this edit, you added the Mongolian word кйкү. That can’t be Mongolian. I wonder if you meant a different language, or if you mistyped the word? I don’t recall any language that permits "кй", which is why I think you may have mistyped it. —Stephen (Talk) 01:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)