User talk:Fastifex

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Hello, and welcome to Wiktionary. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Please see our formatting standards in Entry layout explained. --EncycloPetey 05:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Ditto for culot SemperBlotto 08:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


We do not use redirects on Wiktionary. Each word in each language gets its own page or section of a page. --EncycloPetey 06:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


Please take some time to familiarize yourself with out Formatting conventions. There is no header Derivations on Wiktionary. --EncycloPetey 09:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

  • PLEASE read these links. Definition lines start with a # not a * SemperBlotto 07:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


Hi, please see my recent changes to commis. :-) —RuakhTALK 01:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


The template {{R:Online Etymology Dictionary}} already exists and works in such a way that it takes you to the headword page on that site. I made your template a redirect and will be nominating it for deletion pending it being orphaned. All reference templates are usually prefixed with R: and reside in Category:Reference templates for future reference.--Williamsayers79 12:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


I have also moved this to {{R:Webster NCD 1967}} as you might imagine there are more than one Webster's Dictionary ;-) --Williamsayers79 12:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

More template pointers

Following on from the above I've also moved and categorised two more reference templates that you created:

Also I've deleted {{du-proper noun}} as it was not consistent with our usual inflection line templates. They are usually prefixed with the language code in this instance should have been nl and not du. Please see {{en-proper noun}} for an example of how a proper noun inflection template is constructed. Also see Category:Inflection templates for further examples of inflection templates.

Enjoy contributing! --Williamsayers79 10:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Your templates

If you persist in changing templates I have created and apparently nobody else uses (I suspect in many cases nobody else will), and apparently even intend to delete redirects to your long versions, you thus render them far less practical, so the only result can be they'll be less used, as I would have to waste too much time trying to guess what damned code replaced my mnemonics, while puzzling content together, often from different sources, can be complex enough; therefore I will probably end up sourcing much less or even abandon the etymological sections altogether. Obviously this doesn't apply to major sources such as Etymology On line, which hopefully have many Wiki-users.

And what's the purpose? Template names aren't meant ever to be read by a single end-user, just us contributors, so no formality makes any sense here. Surely we all have better thing to do. This kind of formalistic nonsense takes a lot of the fun out of contributing actual content, and thus is one of the reasons there is so little substance (especially in Wiktionary, when I look up something I actually want to know it's usually totally absent or hopelessly inadequate) and so little progress.

Happy content contributing, anyway. Fastifex 10:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't have anything against shorter template names, I'd prefer R: prefix for reference templates as they are less likely to conflict with naming of other templates. The categorisation is to enable us to find the templates so that we can all use them.
I don't want to discourage anyone from contributing but we need to have some structure.--Williamsayers79 11:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikilinking words on same page

Hallo Fastifex, goed werk! (Maybe you want to put a {{Babel}} box on your userpage?) May I point out that mentioned terms in etymologies should be linked, even if they are on the same page? E.g. on patina, the etymology should read ‘From {{It.}} [[#Italian|patina]] …’. Note that I like to use templates. In fact, there is even a template for the term as well: {{term}}, so it should be (or somewhere in the future, when {{term}} is agreed on): From {{It.}} {{term|patina|lang=it}} …. Similarly in translation sections: the Dutch translation is [[#Dutch|patina]] {{n}}, and here also, there is a template: {{t}}, to be used like this: {{t|nl|patina|n}}. H. (talk) 11:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Dutch pronunciation

I am unsure where you come from, or what dialect you are speaking, but /soʊl/ as the pronunciation of sol#Dutch seems very unreasonable to me. Myself being from Flanders, I know a lot of people from the north, and cannot imagine anyone pronouncing it like this. H. (talk) 11:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)



  • The two etymology references about that page seem to contradict each other. Are you sure about your edit?
  • If you change the order of definitions, also change the order of translation boxes.
  • Wikify translations (the Dutch ones).
  • I would never say ‘lul’ for someone who is a ‘seut’. They are different concepts.

H. (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)


The templates {{m}} and {{f}} are meant for grammatical gender. Since English does not have grammatical gender in nouns then it's best to state the term is used to refer to people of both sexes in the definition.--Williamsayers79 11:50, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


Please pay more carfeul attention to what you are doing:

  • For the entry on mass, you merged two separate translation section for two separate definitions. Do not do that. Each definition gets its own list of translations.
  • For the Latin entry papa, you should have given the singular genitive of the noun, not the plural. You also should have given different definitions on separate lines.

--EncycloPetey 13:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Translation headers

I don;t understand the edits you're making to translations sections. The translation sections headers must match the various definitions. You are changing them not to match. If you continue to do this, you will be blocked, as it is a loss of page content. --EncycloPetey 18:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


This is not spelled correctly. It should be Małopolska, and it is translated into English as "Little Poland", not "Lesser Poland". --EncycloPetey 02:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


What is your source for this? It does not match my dictionaries or the research a Czech scholar friend of mine did on medieval Czech titles. --EncycloPetey 02:53, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


This edit is a copyright violation. You cannot paste in copyrighted material here because it is illegal to do that. --EncycloPetey 02:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


Would you kindly explain this edit? Robert Ullmann 05:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


Are you Verbo?! And if you are what the hell is wrong with you?! Why don't you ever reply to people's messages to you? maybe this will get through to you: AT LEAST REPLY TO THE COMMENTS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!! GAWD! >_> Lastly, I may stand corrected but I think abuse of multiple accounts is grounds for being blocked is it not?! 50 Xylophone Players talk 17:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Vienna sausage

When you add an example sentence to an entry, it must contain the word being demonstrated, not some other word. --EncycloPetey 04:48, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Please correct the example sentence you added. It is not grammatical for English. If you have this much difficulty writing grammatical English sentences, then perhaps you should not write them. --EncycloPetey 06:28, 4 December 2009 (UTC)