Talk:洋々

Pls check

@Eirikr Could you check the formatting, pls, specifically the PoS? --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 23:23, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

• Anatoli: Done.  :) ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 18:48, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

  @Eirikr Thanks. According to EDICT it can also be combined with と but I haven't checked yet. ---Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 20:56, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

• Yes, と is just the adverbial form for all -tari adjectives, just like に is the adverbial form for -na and -nari adjectives.

All the -na adjectives were previously -nari adjectives. This came from [NOUNISH WORD] + に + あり (classical terminal form of the copula, equivalent to modern ある). Similarly, all the -tari adjectives were originally [NOUNISH WORD] + と + あり.

Since these come from the classical verb あり, they follow the ra conjugation pattern, as described at w:ja:ラ行変格活用.

Basic forms:

	Classical -nari adjectives	Modern -na adjectives	Classical -tari adjectives	Modern -tari adjectives
未然形 (mizenkei, “incomplete”)	-nara	daro	-tara	-
連用形 (ren'yōkei, “continuative”)	-nari, ni	daQ, de, ni	-tari, -to	to
終止形 (shūshikei, “terminal”)	-nari	da	-tari	-
連体形 (rentaikei, “attributive”)	-naru	-na	-taru	-taru
Classical 已然形 (izenkei, “realis”) Modern 仮定形 (kateikei, “hypothetical”)	-nare	-nara	-tare	-
命令形 (meireikei, “imperative”)	-nare	ni nare	-tare	-tare (rare)

HTH! At some point, I'd like to take a serious look at how we could expand our template and module infrastructure for classical Japanese. That might have to wait a while, though.  :) ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 22:16, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. yeah, I understand, it's the adverbial usage. User:Wyang has great skills in making templates, if he has time and interest. Meanwhile some example with other forms would be great. I'll search for them too. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 22:44, 23 March 2015 (UTC)