Talk:Shem HaMephorash

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Shem HaMephorash

I don't believe this is English. The plural looks wrong. The proper noun definition is plural - should be singular if OK. SemperBlotto (talk) 14:54, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

You nominated an entire page for deletion because you think the plural tense is wrong?

…why don't you just fix the plural tense? 129.64.174.194 20:19, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Moved to RFV. DTLHS (talk) 20:23, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Quote from entry that doesn't attest this capitalization or spelling:

1. DTLHS (talk) 20:36, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

If it's attestable, this shouldn't be a plural. It is a singular. The quote above is misusing it, or using it awkwardly. --WikiTiki89 20:58, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

@Wikitiki89 Should we keep the two distinct senses? DTLHS (talk) 22:08, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm not familiar enough with the kabbalistic sense to be able to judge at the moment. I need to look at more examples. --WikiTiki89 17:16, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Isn't there also a problem with using an English definite article, since the Hebrew phrase already has one? On the other hand, occultists tend to be abysmally ignorant of linguistics, and often think that being able to find a dictionary entry by reverse-transliterating foreign expressions means they've mastered the language in question. I've seen some appallingly ignorant errors in published books, which editors have tried to cite as proof that those forms exist in the other language. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:07, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

I think this normally is used with the English definite article. --WikiTiki89 17:16, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

I have added three cites to the Proper Name. For the noun, I usually find a different casing (Initial caps only or all lower case). With this casing,I have always found it italicized, which could be taken to mean that it is not English. Kiwima (talk) 21:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

It is not really a noun, as opposed to a Proper noun, as it is always considered the name of God. I have therefore merged the two entries, and it is cited Kiwima (talk) 21:32, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 23:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)