Talk:a-pawn
Latest comment: 3 years ago by DAVilla in topic RFD discussion: May–June 2021
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SOP, "a pawn on the x-file." One could also talk about an "h-rook," an "a-file," the "d2-knight," etc. Imetsia (talk) 18:26, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- These do seem rather SoP to me because they refer to the specific notation of the chessboard (numbers on one axis and letters on another). They are not so much like A-pillar etc. (the successive divisions between motor vehicles' windows). Equinox ◑ 18:32, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Keep; a pawn in chess always stays on the same file unless it captures something and moves to any another file. Not the same case with others. I've heard people say "player-x's e-pawn captured player-y's knight on d5/d5-knight (exd5) and also "player-y's knight on d5/d5-knight captured c-pawn (Nxc3). Other pieces are referred by their place by the exact square they are on and not by their file, as in the case of pawns. 🔥ಶಬ್ದಶೋಧಕ🔥 10:18, 23 May 2021 (UTC)- @SodhakSH: But other pieces can be referred to by only their file. There are examples of "a-rook" ([1], [2], [3]), "h-rook" ([4], [5], [6]), "f-knight" ([7], [8]), and so on. It's also very conventional to refer to a piece by the file when two of the same piece could reach the same square (as in "knight-b to d2" or "rook-f to f6.") Imetsia (talk) 18:13, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- Weak delete per nom. - -sche (discuss) 03:44, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, the definitions are too simplistic, it is one of the two pawns in the game that start on a given file at the beginning of the game, so it is a fixed property for the duration of a game that cannot always be glanced from a particular situation, especially later in the game. An a-pawn is still an a-pawn (though not for long) even if you manage to move it to the h-file. You can find attestations of multiple captures being accomplished by an X-pawn, that is not possible if X-pawn is defined by whatever pawn of a player happens to be on a certain file at the time.
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 12:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC)- Are you saying, once an a-pawn, always an a-pawn? Or does the designation change after capture? DAVilla 14:47, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- If the former, I think Lingo is not correct about this one. The pawn does change designation according to which file it is found on at any particular moment. If the a-pawn captures a piece on the b-file, it now becomes a b-pawn. It is still possible to say something like "the a-pawn captured the knight [on the b-file] and then (later in the game) the rook [on the c-file]." But once it arrives on the c-file, every sensible player or commentator would call it a c-pawn, NOT an "a-pawn on the c-file." Imetsia (talk) 18:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, I agree with the deletion then. DAVilla 10:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- If the former, I think Lingo is not correct about this one. The pawn does change designation according to which file it is found on at any particular moment. If the a-pawn captures a piece on the b-file, it now becomes a b-pawn. It is still possible to say something like "the a-pawn captured the knight [on the b-file] and then (later in the game) the rook [on the c-file]." But once it arrives on the c-file, every sensible player or commentator would call it a c-pawn, NOT an "a-pawn on the c-file." Imetsia (talk) 18:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Are you saying, once an a-pawn, always an a-pawn? Or does the designation change after capture? DAVilla 14:47, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per "who's going to look this up here?"; Or redirect to pawn#Etymology 1. Facts707 (talk) 03:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- RFD-deleted. Imetsia (talk) 14:46, 19 June 2021 (UTC)