Talk:damage counter

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damage counter

"A token that represents 10 as the value of damage inflicted to a Pokémon card in Pokémon Trading Card Game." It is a thing that counts damage. Any such thing could be a damage counter. Wiktionary is not an instruction manual or a video game or anime fan site. Equinox ◑ 00:20, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

It makes me embarassed that I know what he means. :'( But yeah, it's just a thing that counts damage. -- Prince Kassad 00:22, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Delete, obvious from the sum of its parts. This is an example of a damage counter rather than a definition for it (something which counts damage). Mglovesfun (talk) 00:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Delete. Immediately. ---> Tooironic 07:34, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Weak keep. Seems a bit set phrase-ish. (Is this term only used in Pokémon TCG? I thought it was used in basically all non-electronic battle games that have "damage"...) --Yair rand (talk) 07:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Not with the sense that it represents ten damage. And I don't think M:tG uses damage counters, unlike poison counters, and other games could use damage tokens or damage markers. None of which are well-indexed on b.g.c..--Prosfilaes 11:37, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

If a player doesn't know what damage counter refers to in a card game like Pokemon. Maybe they should refer to the game manual which serves as a dictionary specific to that game. Every game has its own list of terms and definitions that might vary (be it wildly or slighly) from other games of similar nature. Does that mean we should include them all (e.g. expertise in World of Warcraft has a completely different meaning to the same word in Divinity II. Both are RPG games. I wouldn't include either instance in wiktionary.). Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 07:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Delete; looking at g.b.c, I don't find non-Pokemon uses of damage counter, but it's a specific use of a generic phrase, used in a specific context of one game.--Prosfilaes 11:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but "a specific use of a generic phrase, used in a specific context of one game." applies to computer chess and revealed check as well. --Daniel. 11:45, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

If I had more time, I'd put computer chess up for RfD. It's SoP. revealed check is not a generic phrase; it's opaque to someone who doesn't know chess. Also, the most well-known non-proprietary game in the world is a little different from something in one trading card game. I find this more analogous to the Monopoly use of house; it is a damage counter, and the exact details are out of our scope.--Prosfilaes 14:18, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

computer chess has survived an RFD already. Equinox ◑ 14:20, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Putting your examples aside, I'm currently translating a glossary for the w:Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, more-or-less this page. There are a lot of words there used with specialized meanings, e.g. "extraordinary abilities are unusual abilities that do not rely on magic to function."; do we want entries for each of them? (There's even more justification for most of them; they're derived from Dungeons & Dragons 3 and hence could be cited for dozens of closely related games from a variety of publishers.) If we include a use of damage counter specific to one proprietary game, I don't see why these vocabulary aren't eligible.--Prosfilaes 19:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Delete. A counter of damage in a specific context. If it were not, it would be subject to fictional universe verification. DCDuring TALK 18:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

No, it would not be subject to fictional universe verification, because it is part of a real game (w:Pokémon Trading Card Game). --Daniel. 19:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Delete. --Dan Polansky 08:35, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Delete per Prosfilaes (14–16 November 2010 (UTC)).​—msh210℠ (talk) 07:33, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Delete. I have played several card games myself including Magic the Gathering. A counter is used to temporarily place an incremental value on a particular aspect/property of the game, damage counter being one of them. Of course there are also, creature counters, defence counters - so on and so forth. I'd delete it just for it being SoP. Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 07:07, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Crossed out. Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 07:09, 21 November 2010 (UTC)