Talk:prison gang

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• Time: 2005-03-21T03:14:12Z - By: w:User:HowCanJeobBeDone
• Time: 2005-03-21T03:40:02Z - By: w:User:Curps - Comment: useless dicdef by vandal who has also created now-deleted hoax articles
• Time: 2005-03-21T07:51:29Z - By: w:User:Gazpacho - Comment: This is a notable subject and could be expanded
• Time: 2005-03-23T23:00:11Z - By: w:User:Cyrius - Comment: dicdef

RFD discussion: January 2019–March 2020

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prison gang

SoP, a gang in prison. Ultimateria (talk) 07:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Could it also mean a prison work gang? (that's a term that should have an entry). DonnanZ (talk) 14:01, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Seems SOP to me, delete unless there is some more specific sense. Re work gang, I have not seen it used in that way, and we do have chain gang, beyond that specific term I have seen a few different formulations related to groups of prisoners working outside of the prison, work gang, work crew and work detail among them. - TheDaveRoss 14:18, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Oxford has an entry for work gang. DonnanZ (talk) 17:18, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

I think work crew and work detail occur with equal facility in non-prison contexts, with work detail appearing in military contexts. bd2412 T 02:41, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

I don’t think a conscientious writer would use the term “prison gang” for a work gang of prisoners, for the simple reason it would surely be misunderstood by almost every reader, just like one wouldn’t use the term “kitchen table” for a table of weights and measures used in a kitchen.  --Lambiam 14:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

In fact, that was the first meaning I thought of when I read the thread title. Of course, I understand the other meaning well enough too. Mihia (talk) 00:49, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Here is a question that has come up before with arguably SoPpy terms: How should an ESL learner know which of the many senses of gang is the one to choose for understanding the term prison gang? I think sense 6, but that may not be obvious – and, moreover, that sense does not impart the persistence of prison gangs. Therefore I’m leaning towards Keep. (BTW, the somewhat figurative sense for a group of politicians – which I think could also be high-level executives or officials in a non-political organization – ought to be a sense on its own, rather than being lump together with criminal gangs, which tend to be more structured and have a longer lifespan.)  --Lambiam 14:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

If quality of definition were the criteria, I would say delete. As it is now, it looks like it is defining a Hollywood prison gang. An internet search for "what is a prison gang" would give better answers. -Mike (talk) 03:13, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Delete as SoP. Pppery (talk) 23:07, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Failed - TheDaveRoss 15:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC)