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RFV discussion: October 2018

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Any takers? I can see some usage with a coma instead of a hyphen. And I think the definition is not quite right. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:43, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

This IP persistently adds words like this and they have been blocked before- all of their contributions should be checked. DTLHS (talk) 16:25, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
Are there any English (, shminglish) nouns (, shmouns) or adjectives (,shmadjectives) that cannot have this kind (,shmind) of reduplicative (, shmeduplicative) construction (, shmonstruction)? Not all may be attestable, but are any of them entry-worthy? Since the shm- word always appears with the word it derives from, it doesn't seem to me unreasonable to expect someone to realize that [[shm-]]/[[schm-]] might be worth examining. DCDuring (talk) 18:39, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
“Are there any English nouns that cannot have this kind of reduplicative construction?” Try schmozzle :).  --Lambiam 09:23, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
Speedily deleted by Equinox. It may be worth considering whether to add an entry to "Appendix:English snowclones", if this is in fact a "thing". — SGconlaw (talk) 11:49, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
It is definitely a thing in English as spoken in the US by native speakers of Yiddish, their children, and imitators (eg, comedians). This has come up before, but I don't think anyone has taken up the challenge. DCDuring (talk) 19:19, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
I deleted it because it was part of a sequence of low-quality shite added by a schmozzle. In any case we should not have any entry for clever-schmever or big-schmig, because we already have schm- prefix. Equinox 00:28, 29 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
So to try to close this: we already have shm- and schm-. What more do you want? Blood? Equinox 01:25, 29 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
In that case, I think no further action is required. Future entries along this line can be speedily deleted. — SGconlaw (talk) 02:51, 29 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
This is basically the same as pig Latin: not even a snowclone- just a morphological rule. Out of the 310,545 current entries in Category:English nouns, there are about 2 dozen that won't work this rule in some form. While I'm not anticipating an entry for prezygapophysis-schmezygapophysis any time soon, this straightforward of a morphological rule isn't enough lexical content to warrant a whole class of new entries. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:33, 29 October 2018 (UTC)Reply