Talk:secundation

RFV discussion: September 2015–February 2016

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secundation

I can find very few legitimate citations for this word. The "prosperity" meaning is propagated throughout dictionaries, but I can find no examples of its actual usage. There was a request for definition on a second meaning related to botany, but after looking at every citation in google books, it is clearly just the f/s ambiguity in old texts and the word in every case is really fecundation. I DID find two actual citations for the word: One as a synonym for secondment: * and one as a protoneologism for killing every other one: *. In any case, not enough to keep the word. Kiwima (talk) 08:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

The 1951 quotation looks to me like it fits the challenged sense. I found two more quotations—the first one seems to support the challenged sense, but I'm not sure about the second one.

—Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 13:22, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

That second one looks like fecundation to me - especially when read in context. Kiwima (talk) 04:31, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

I would agree if it were written with an f/ſ, but it is clearly written with an s. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 12:32, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

The context leads us to expect "fecundation" and leads "secundation" to make no sense, the work is on Hindu law and seems to be working from or transcribing other documents, which could have had "ſ" (and for that matter some of the authors, of the cases at least, probably didn't speak English as their primary and/or native language and so they may have misread/mis-entered "f" where they meant "ſ")... I think it's likely the writer of the Selection either misread a source document with "ſ", or simply made a typo. - -sche (discuss) 21:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

• RFV failed: At best, only two citations for the challenged sense have been found. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 13:26, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Note that we do still have secundate with related meaning. Equinox ◑ 16:52, 9 December 2017 (UTC)