Talk:suck off

RFV discussion: February–May 2017

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suck off

def: "(slang, transitive) To fellate a man, usually until he ejaculates."

I question whether this definition is correct in two regards:

1. Is it limited to "man"?
2. Isn't it always to the point of ejaculation (excluding instances of interruption)?

Isn't there a sense of off#Adverb that we lack, to wit, that reflected in get off, suck off, jerk off, wank off and any similar expressions. (You may guess where this is going.) DCDuring TALK 13:29, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

It wouldn't necessarily have to be a man, since pre-surgery transgender women have penises as well (though, depending on your politics, you may or may not view them as men still). Anyway, I suppose you could go out and find porn where dildoes are sucked off as well. Given that last point, and given the existence of coitus reservatus and orgasm control, I don't think the sucked-off object, be it a penis or a pseudo-penis, necessarily must ejaculate during a sucking-off. There's a few sentences I didn't expect to write today. — Kleio (t · c) 17:20, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Silly me. I meant to also require support for "he ejaculates" (rather than "orgasm"). Lastly one can find abundant citations of "[suck] her off", so "fellate" seems wrong.

IOW, can we show that the existing definition is correct, rather than simply wrong in multiple ways. DCDuring TALK 20:31, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

I found this citation:

Also, the definition is not worded as a transitive verb, the object being expressly included in the definition and the object is solely a person rather than being worded to include "sexual organ". The more I think about it the more amateurish the definition is. DCDuring TALK 20:53, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

I have emmended the definition. RFV-resolved. Kiwima (talk) 03:36, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Tea room convo

• Wiktionary:Tea_room/2017/February#suck_off

--Barytonesis (talk) 11:36, 27 June 2017 (UTC)