User talk:2WR1

cheau

Where did you find this? The usual word is chiot; I'm a native speaker of French, and I've never encountered this word. — This unsigned comment was added by 2a02:2788:854:1b49:2873:a34e:7649:c6ce (talk). <butting in> It is in the French Wiktionary, but looks like it might be obsolete.</butting in> SemperBlotto (talk) 10:56, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

@2a02:2788:854:1b49:2873:a34e:7649:c6ce: @SemperBlotto: Ya, I found it on the French wiktionary when I was looking something up. I just tried to look on other online dictionaries and I can't find it. The French wiktionary page gives its source as "Dictionnaire de l'orthographe, éditions du Club France Loisir". Should I mark it as obsolete? Thanks.

Using context labels

Please see my recent changes to your entries — the code fr must be used in French entries, and you can put multiple labels in (as I did on mayeur). There should not be an empty line between definitions. If you have any other questions, do ask. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 01:09, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

(Just a note: more on our formatting standards can be found at WT:ELE, if you're curious.) —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 01:09, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge: Thank you! Sorry, it is a bit confusing, but I think I've got it now.

Marking pronunciations

Hi again. We use the template {{a}} for pronunciations, as I did here. Our standard for broad transcriptions is to use /oʊ/ for the US equivalent. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 21:46, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

I see you already noticed. Thanks then! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 21:46, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge: Ya, sorry, I usually do that.

mouvementé

Did you mean adjective? — Ungoliant ^(falai) 20:22, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

@Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV: Yes, thank you for pointing that out! I just fixed it.

obliviscor

IMO one etymology supplied would indeed suggest oblīvīscor, the other would suggest oblīviscor. L&S gives oblīviscor, L Elem. gives oblīvīscor. Because the page supplies L&S as the source, I reckon the paradigm given should comply. I've checked a couple of less known (written) sources (dictionaries mostly), and most of them lean towards oblīviscor. As such, unless the citation given in the page is changed, I thing that oblīviscor is the way to go.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=obliviscor&la=la#lexicon — This unsigned comment was added by Poponuro (talk • contribs).

If you weren't aware, L&S (as well as many other good dictionaries) will omit macra when it is not absolutely necessary to give them, but that does not mean they are claiming that it is a short vowel. Dictionaries like Elem. Lewis or Collins which are aimed at readers who may not know the niceties yet all give oblīvīscor, and this makes me feel sure that we should as well. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 17:03, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Pronunciations

"ᵿ" isn't a standard character in IPA. DTLHS (talk) 20:59, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

@DTLHS: Oh, okay, which character should I use instead? 2WR1 (talk) 21:03, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't know. @Ultimateria what do you think? DTLHS (talk) 21:42, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm not actually familiar with this vowel, but according to the Wikipedia page, it should be ʊ̈. Ultimateria (talk) 22:55, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

@DTLHS, Ultimateria: I think in this situation, probably a schwa would suffice. I don't remember though, which page did I use it on again? 2WR1 (talk) 23:35, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

supernaculum, maybe others. DTLHS (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

@DTLHS: Thanks! No, that was the only one. It's just because I copied the pronunciation from somewhere else. 2WR1 (talk) 23:50, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

IPA questions

Hi there! Since you're IPA-4 and I'm IPA-1, do you mind if I ask you an IPA-related question once in a while? I would probably do it as a ping from my user page so I could have an easy reference. I have a few questions that just don't seem right for the Wiktionary:Information_desk, but I can go there if you'd rather not be bothered. Thanks in advance! BirdHopper (talk) 18:03, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

@BirdHopper Ya, absolutely! I'm the most well versed in English, French, German, and Dutch standard IPA. But I'm familiar with just about ever symbol there is and I'd like to think that I'm good at explaining them. 2WR1 (talk) 19:24, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

@2WR1 Awesome, thank you! I'll go ahead and ask my first question then via my talk page. BirdHopper (talk) 19:31, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Wrong pronunciation of pjäs

I fixed the pronunciation at pjäs. A long ä is never (or at least very rarely) pronounced /eː/ but /ɛː/ so you know.Jonteemil (talk) 14:54, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Jonteemil, Thanks! I had forgotten I had added that a while ago, it was an interestingly spelt word so I wanted the pronunciation for it, I did my best to look but probably found a source using non-standard IPA or something. Thanks for fixing that! 2WR1 (talk) 21:04, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

No worries! Yeah, Swedish loanwords from French are often spelt exactly how they sound which can lead to some curiously spelllings: fåtölj (< fauteuil) , pjäs (< pièce) , konjak (< cognac), paraply (< parapluie), butelj (< bouteille ), kuliss (< coulisse), ateljé (< atelier), byrå (< bureau), staty (< statue) och medaljong (< médaillon) etc.Jonteemil (talk) 21:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Jonteemil Thanks, that's interesting! I've noticed a lot of Swedish entries on Wiktionary are lacking IPA, so when it's a word that looks like it's pronunciation isn't super straightforward I try to go to the Swedish Wiktionary to find the pronunciation there and move it over, it's not always mentioned there either. If there's an issue like that do you mind if I send them your way in the future? 2WR1 (talk) 21:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Not at all, I’d gladly answer your questions😊.Jonteemil (talk) 22:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Jonteemil Awesome, thanks! 2WR1 (talk) 23:00, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Russian terms with irregular pronunciations

Hi,

Some words that you have categorised are predictable and pronounced regularly. E.g. it would be irregular to pronounce пра́здник (prázdnik) with a [d], "д" is silent: [ˈprazʲnʲɪk] and this follows a rule. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 10:51, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Atitarev, I'm sorry some of my edits were incorrect, thanks for explaining that for me. I was looking into irregular Russian spellings and trying to add them, I guess I misunderstood the category's purpose, as it's irregular pronunciations and not irregular spellings, and as there's some overlap with those two categories, I got confused. Thank again 2WR1 (talk) 01:20, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

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