User talk:84.57.154.13
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[edit]Thank you for your many great German edits. Have you considered making an account? It would make communication (because we could ping you) and patrolling (because we could whitelist you) a lot easier. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 18:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Fytcha Hmm... you know I used to have an account a few years back, but with time the discussions got pretty tedious, so I went to just edit occasionally as an IP. On the other hand, I know I'm editing quite a lot these days because I'm at home, so I can always take a little break. I do see the problem with patrolling... I don't really want to, but I think about it :) 84.57.154.13 18:36, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- No pressure, thanks for considering it :) — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 18:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Fytcha: Btw you can personally Whitelist any IP by a script such that all edits by that IP get automatically marked as patrolled by your account. —Svārtava (t/u) • 01:19, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, but my IP changes all the time. 84.57.154.13 02:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi. You can't create a weak noun just by making the genitive en. Also I have marked Star with a weak declension as archaic because I doubt it is ever still used in a normal register, and it is not in any modern dictionary. Benwing2 (talk) 06:05, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Benwing2 Dictionaries often give only one possible inflection, so you have to check for usage on the web. However, you're not correct. DWDS does give it and calls it "rare". I myself would have considered it obsolete, but when I checked I found quite a bit of contemporary use. Nevertheless I think "archaic" is fine. I don't know if there's a way to tag the genitive as "archaic" and the plural as "dated"? There should be, because it's often the case that weak singular declension becomes obsolete but the corresponding plural still lingers on. 84.57.154.13 12:58, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- PS: There are also nouns whose plural is always "-en", but the singular can be strong informally, like Automat. So it would be cool if the template allowed us to say "genitive Automaten or (informal) Automats, plural Automaten". Basically this is true for all weak nouns that neither refer to people nor end in "-e". 84.57.154.13 13:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- You can add a footnote to an individual form by putting it in brackets after the form. (And if the form is otherwise defaulted, you can use
+to explicitly request the default while adding a footnote after it.) so e.g.{{de-noun|((<m.weak>,<m,s[informal],en>))}}gives the following:- For Star, there isn't an easy way to add one footnote in the declension table to the oblique singular forms but a different one to the plural forms other than adding an override for each singular oblique case, like this:
{{de-ndecl|((<m,s:es>,<m,+[archaic],+[dated].weak.acc:+[archaic].dat:+[archaic]>))}}, which gives the following:
- You can add a footnote to an individual form by putting it in brackets after the form. (And if the form is otherwise defaulted, you can use
- I will think about what would be a good syntax to enable this in a cleaner fashion. Benwing2 (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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