Category talk:Etyl without second param

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Category:Etyl without second param

I don't see why we need a template tracking category for templates used correctly. Nitpick, Etyl should be etyl in the title. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:34, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

diff seems to show that I'm not the only one who prefers specifying "en". —CodeCat 17:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
I've been known to add en, too, but only (or chiefly) to entries I create. - -sche (discuss) 18:34, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
I've been known to add en, too, but only for the purpose of removing the entry from this very category. The existence of this category led me to believe there was consensus that {{etyl}} was supposed to have a second param and that leaving the second param empty had been deprecated. If that isn't the case, then delete. —Angr 14:08, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I would certainly support deprecating it, but I think changing these entries is beneficial even if we don't deprecate it. —CodeCat 14:11, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
No one's stopping you from changing them, but the existence of this category—even though it's hidden—leads others to believe that what it contains is necessary cleanup. You can spend your Wiktionary time however you like, but when I do cleanup, I want it to be actually necessary cleanup. Is there some other way you could get a list of such pages besides a category? Could your bot make a list in your own userspace for you? —Angr 14:55, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Another: diffCodeCat 02:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Meh, keep. - -sche (discuss) 18:34, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
What about other hypothetical categories (that could easily be made real) like Category:plural of without lang. Such a category would contain pretty much all of Category:English plurals, and furthermore all such entries would be correct, too. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:11, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
The difference is that people generally expect lang= to be optional (with {{term}} as an important exception), whereas language codes that are numbered parameters are, as a rule, mandatory. I wouldn't mind adding lang=en to all of those too, though... —CodeCat 14:14, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I disagree. We have enough formatting issues needing fixing here, without literally inventing some more for ourselves. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:16, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm not asking anyone else to make these changes, so it wouldn't be any issue. I would just like to do it myself. —CodeCat 14:25, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Delete. If anything, those with en as the second param should be added to a cleanup category. If this is kept, then the template's documentation should be modified to explain the new correct usage, as it currently states that one should leave out the second parameter for English. A note at N4E might be useful, too. --Yair rand (talk) 22:43, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Why should those with "en" as the second parameter be added to a cleanup category? —CodeCat 23:12, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Because it's formatted incorrectly, of course. Standard practice is to leave out the second parameter for English. --Yair rand (talk) 00:03, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
I disagree. —CodeCat 00:08, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Weak delete per Yair and per Mg's "Etyl should be etyl in the title", but strong disagreement with bot-editing pages to add