Talk:空

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On the new format, why are we duplicating information? --- Emperorbma

Because they are different. The upper part explaining the entry as a kanji while the lower part explaining it as a word. Not all kanji can serve as a-word-by-itself in Japanese (how about Chinese?). By declare the entry as kanji, we could always sure that upper section should always have all the possible readings or links to words that containing it (currently it just not completed yet). By declare it as a word, we could always sure that it should have the same format with entries like あれ, 見る, イギリス (may have synonyms, usage, etc.). In Japan you could find a Kanji-Jiten (Kanji Dictionary) and Kokugo-Jiten (Japanese-Japanese Dictionary) sold separately. Petruk 14:22 Aug 13, 2003 (UTC)
For those Kanji that can't be used by itself we could simply denote that in the "Other info:" section. Should "words containing this kanji" include the Kanji itself (since we would/could not make it a link)? Japman 22:13 Aug 13, 2003 (UTC)
We should separate it not only because of that. My main concern is about the 'cleanliness' of the format, that is, the consistency with other entries. About whether or not the "words containing this kanji" should include the kanji itself, for me it is a matter of taste. You could remove it if you think it is useless. Petruk 17:36 Aug 14, 2003 (UTC)
Oh, nevermind then! — Emperorbma
That's great! Thanks! :-) Petruk 17:36 Aug 14, 2003 (UTC)

Mandarin readings[edit]

Can it be added in which contexts the three different Mandarin readings are used? 71.66.97.228 06:49, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

These senses are cognate. kōng (OC *kʰoːŋ) is "to be hollow, empty > sky; in vain". kòng (OC *kʰoːŋs) is the causative ("to make ... empty, to vacate"), nominalised ("empty space, spare time"), and (somewhat) figurative form ("to have nothing, to be poor"). kǒng (OC *kʰoːŋʔ) is "hole, aperture", possibly with the -l- infix (OC *kʰloːŋʔ), now written as , whence also the disyllabic form 窟窿 (kūlong, "hole"). I've always thought this is cognate with Viet. không ("not, to be not" - also the Sino-Viet. of "空"), and that this is borrowed from a non-Sino-Tibetan substratum (Min Nan still has "空" meaning "zero"). 60.240.101.246 10:11, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, which non-Sino-Tibetan substratum? Why not add this information to the entry? 71.66.97.228 06:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)